Squatters do this shit every day to regular people and small businesses, but they don’t have the money to convince a judge to hand over a domain.
Hey it’s just fair, and the judge has a new sports car suddenly and or a yacht.
I was more talking about the costs of the legal process itself. Justice is expensive, not everyone can afford it.
A squatter is why Valve used steampowered.com instead of steam.com. The owner of steam.com (who has owned the domain since the early 90s!) has consistently refused to sell to anyone, and has never stated a specific reason why.
I see nothing wrong with that. It predates steam and they aren’t attempting to extort large sums of money from anyone.
What the judge should have done is threaten to cut the domain name in half and see who was willing to give up their claim out of motherly love.
I wonder how much the city of LA would pay to get La.com back haha.
Why a city would want a .com tld? A .gov tld would be far more applicable IMO
Annoyingly, people are more likely to “blind guess” at .com than .gov, just cause there’s more of them
Do people even still exist who have the arcane knowledge to type in a domain directly?
Hey, that’s not arcane knowledge.
Arcane knowledge is memorising the server’s IP address.
Aichteeteepee, colon slash slash, doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou dot…
I do, but only for websites I already know, though usually I have those bookmarked.
Some folks just when high on weed and/or bored will try typing random URLs to see if they’re anything
(I was one of those back when I was a teen)
I would guess tourism. It seems like that’s what it’s currently used for.
The city of LA should not get a .com name. They might have a case that la.com should not have a .com either (they look like a tourist .org though if they are not acting like a .org they are scammers) - but this would be a very hard sell in court. The city of LA should have a .gov (which won’t allow them) or .us (which is not organized well - something they should be mad about and pressure to get fixed) name.
I think the initial goal of top level domains having any real meaning is dead.
And that’s ignoring the state of LA.
What sucks is that a lot of commercial companies in L.A. use the .la domain, which is blocked by my company’s proxy.
Wasn’t expecting to see biblical wisdom on the fediverse today
I don’t have all the details to the case, but after reading the article I kinda think they got it wrong.
Let that man call himself Lambo and keep the domain. As long as he isn’t pretending to represent another brand, such as Lamborghini.
They got it right because they sided with the wealthy corporation.
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Another great example of this being an economic rent problem.
Namecoin is one of the oldest cryptocurrencies, but never caught on because it’s >99% domain name squatters. There’s no mechanism to increase the cost of renewal to anything proportional to the value of the name, so they always renew for practically free. Consequently there’s no incentive for web browsers to support it.
A domain name is like a plot of land. Right now our choices are crony capitalist ICANN with eminent domain, anarcho-capitalist crypto DNS, or sailing the high seas on an .onion address.
Hey hey hey, there’s i2p too.
I always love these shitty “replace the enter key on a keyboard” news thumbnails. Like, ah shit, accidentally hit the “Domain Name Registration” button on my keyboard.
Oh, that’s no biggie:
Hrmm let’s see… am I petty enough today…
Please avoid GoDaddy.
GoDaddy has been involved in many controversies since its foundation in 1997.
I prefer NameCheap, but almost anyone is better than GoDaddy.
*Edit: broken link
Holy $+(+$ even a registrar can’t stay out of trouble
Thanks for the education
Both ends of this are frustrating. Buying a domain either as a purely speculative asset (as the judge correctly labeled this purchase as) so you can 1) get under someones skin enough to make them want to buy the domain from you, or 2) just buying up every popular or potentially popular domain just to sell if off is scummy behaviour that ideally this guy should never have been able to do in the first place.
The other end of this I don’t like though is the possibility of somebody being able to convince a judge that they should own your domain and then just being able to take it. In this case I think the judge ruled correctly but the idea that somebody (especially in the US government) would be able to just take away my domain on a whim is terrifying when you can’t just go to people and say “hey, the person you are going to this domain for has now moved and is now here”. Things like e-mail address, monitoring, firewall exceptions and many self-hosted sites assume that the owner of the domain does not change hands without permission, and trust the domain blindly. Taking away a domain isn’t just like taking away somebodies nickname. It’s taking away their online identity and forced impersonation.
I really wish there was a way to address each other in a decentralised way that doesn’t just push the problem down to something like a public key, where the same problem exists except now you worry about the key being compromised.
The fact that we have ways to coordinate globally unique addresses that we collectively agree on who owns what is a feat. It just sucks that it’s also something which somebody can take away from you.
I recently took over as webmaster for a small local charity, basic website, some backend things to sort, no big deal.
But they’re on a .net and I asked why? A previous webmaster let their domain lapse 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO, and one of those squatters grabbed it and has been holding it ever since. They wanted like $10k to give it back so these people just made a .net
It’s fucking ridiculous. I set a timer to try and grab it next time it expires, but I’m assuming they have their renewals automated.
I don’t get it. Since when are similar words and cultural references and nicknames too owned by the trademark owner?
It was pretty normal for most of the age of trademarks’ existence to use such derived references, including commercial use.
"He tried to claim … a word play on “lamb” and not … " - why would he have to?
I’m (ok, not really identifying as a fan of anything, but it’s good) a Star Wars fan and I can point out plenty of such references there to other authors’ creations, and George Lucas notably doesn’t hide or deny that, actually the opposite.
They are owned by the trademark when the person owning/using the name is acting like the trademark. Trademark law is generally based around would someone be confused if they say the other one. I could start a house construction business can call it Lamborghini without a problem so long as I was very clear in all advertising that I’m only building houses and not in any way related to the cars - but if I start putting Lamborghini cars in my advertising I could get into trouble for creating confusion even though my competitor Joe’s houses has cars in his ads. (this is obviously a made up situation)
From the article “didn’t develop the site, had attacked the company on more than one occasion, and tried to profit from its established reputation.”
If he had developed that site in what looked like good faith he would have kept it. However all indications were he didn’t care about Lambo as anything other than a get rich quick scheme and that will fail to trademark since the name is only valuable if it is confused with the trademark. A parody site (obvious parody) would have been fine. Obvious star wars fan sites as welll (though this could infringe on other trademarks so care is needed). Even adopting Lambo as his nickname could have worked - but if that was his intent he wouldn’t have tried to sell.
so long as I was very clear in all advertising that I’m only building houses and not in any way related to the cars - but if I start putting Lamborghini cars in my advertising I could get into trouble for creating confusion
That’s fine. But suppose your brand is Lambozucchini and you have cars kinda similar to Lamborghini, but with the brand clearly different, just with homage, a bit like Pepsi-Cola and Coca-Cola, where in the world is the problem with that? That should be legal, from common sense.
EDIT: Also nobody confuses Lambo with Lamborghini, a nickname is not confusion and trademark owner doesn’t own nicknames. And they don’t own everything in the world connected to their trademark.
zombo.com still good though
That’s a fight I’ll take up arms for.
You can do anything…
I present to you: http://www.slutsofinstagram.com/
What an acid trip of a front page.
But where will we find young sheep passing under a bar videos?
Stupid greedy asshole got what he deserved. Could have made bank by selling it for 1 million already. But the greed rulebook said to keep raising it to 75 million.
Fuck Lamborghini too.
He raised the price higher than the cost of going to WIPO to deal with it. If he set the price to $1 or 2 million they likely would have paid it. $75 million is bonkers.
He also set precedence. A few more cases like this can the cost of going to court becomes cheaper for everyone.
Yes, fuck poor people for trying to screw over corporations.
He bought the domain for $10000. Not sure what your definition of poor is, but in my opinion someone poor isn’t “investing” in expensive domain names.
Is that what you call scalpers, scammers and thieves, “the poor”? I agree that in most cases they are poor, but they are also assholes that deserve it.
Eventually the precedent would just become ‘poor people’ fucking over everyone, including other ‘poor people’ just trying to start their own business. I get what you’re saying but allowing squatters to create entire catalogues of domains for the sake of sticking it to corporations is probably a shitty answer
Don’t have much sympathy for this person but no company has any more right to a domain name than any of us and this sets a scary precedence.
The person who owns a trademark or copyright has a right to use that trademark and the onus to defend that trademark from other people using it. We used to allow anyone to call themselves anything they way, and it turned out badly.
I don’t really feel any sympathy for this guy.
This fucking thread 🤣
Scary! Sets precedent🤦♂️!
This shit has been going on for 25 years and complaining have been ripped away for this bullshit before.
Nothing burger. Judge was right.
Always crazy seeing people lick the boots of huge corporations like this. Do you think they give you a Lamborghini for it?
I don’t care how much I hate someone, or otherwise how evil they are: when they are right I will support and cheer them. I can still oppose them in other ways, here they are in the right.
Naw, I have a 911. Eat my ass.
It’s not bootlicking, you weirdo. It’s recognizing when one thing is right and one thing is wrong. Just because a company does something doesn’t make it automatically wrong.
I know it might be a crazy concept that is hard to grasp, but the world isn’t totally black and white. It’s almost like bad people can do good things sometimes. And good people can do bad things sometimes. Your way of thinking is exactly the way Republicans justify all the evil shit they do. They are religious, which makes them good people, and therefore everything they do is good. In your case, you think a corporation is bad and therefore everything they do is bad.
Shows you the type of people that are on Lemmy.
“stop defending corporations”
It’s like we hate the corporation too but they’re correct in this instance.
