So I took 5$ and tossed it in her bag…

I kinda wish you’d take another $5 and toss it in to finding a better user name.

Thanks, AI slop.

Would it help if I slammed it EXTRA-HARD, my lil’ cutey…?

Obviously S&G had nothing of the sort, it didnt exist at the time.

Of course it did. Just as I referred to as “manual-tune” in my original comment. George Martin was FAMOUS for that stuff, but I tend to think he wasn’t the first.

Me, I like people who can make brave, interesting points in life, but I also don’t value much people who have no idea WTF they’re talking about, literally without a shred of evidence to back up their nonsense.

Older people (30+)

LOLolol…

I mean, you’re kind of lifting my point in to a broader area that I wasn’t speaking to at the time.

Of course I agree with all that you said. But I was talking strictly in the context of OP’s framework.

You’ve made no real case that it’s used in any significant way upon any significant music I know of.

Used on modern pop? Of course it is. All over the place. Which is like saying that fast food and cold cuts contain a bunch of artificial stuff that enhances shelf life, flavor. We all know that, and most people know that fast food and cold cuts are the very bottom tier of food, despite the brief rush.

You can bet your bippy that Simon & Garfunkel never needed no auto-tune gimmicks to perform “The Sound of Silence.” Altho extra orchestration indeed helped.

You haven’t heard a song NOT using it since at least 1998.

I have a very hard time believing that, unless of course sound engineers have been doing “manual-tune” for ages and ages (see below). Regardless, loads of singers who perform in front of others clearly have the ability to sing a song in a variety of ways depending on mood, venue, audience, occasion, etc. In short-- good singers REALLY ARE that talented, generally with excellent pitch, and don’t need assistance in something as basic as singing notes close enough to pitch-perfect without the need to be absolutely perfect.

Just look at how improv singers can do so well, or people performing in front of judges, or opera and opera-style singers performing in concert halls, like Charlotte Church.

I would guess the one argument of yours that holds some water is with flawed singers who are otherwise good, but have chronic problems hitting close-enough pitch, or really good singers trying to perform songs slightly outside of their range. Stuff like that…

One seemingly enormous difference is that YT is a for-profit platform owned by a huge business (Google), not a decentralised network run by many small volunteers. FWIW.

I don’t have strong feelings either way, but money does touch everything, overtly or not, when it comes to civilisation. Time spent volunteering on Fediverse projects is effectively money spent (at least to some degree), and instances cost time & fees to maintain.

But I guess to argue against myself-- you have to think that without some kind of ongoing responsible oversight, then the worst aspects of capitalism might predictably find a way to screw it all up if left to its own devices. Then again, maybe the scale involved makes that less likely. *shrug*

Couple simple ones, but maybe not as known as they could be:

• Mouse gestures: right-click and draw very simple line patterns to issue dozens of various browser commands.
• Search by Image: convenient shortcut to reverse-image search via up to 8 different useful services.
• uMatrix: security plugin that lets me specifically block / enable javascripts for any site across 8 different categories of functionality. Sort of like an ad-blocker wielding a scalpel, it lets me enable just enough to allow me to reap a site’s goodness, while automatically shutting down any other fringe stuff it may want to do.

“Music… I don’t like music.”
–Bill McNeal (Newsradio)

I’d say keep the Filmation logo. It seems to suit you.

Eh, I’m not sure it was DECISIVELY DISPROVEN. Because in science, we start with the idea that “we just don’t know,” then proceed carefully from there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_extinction

Always on the brink of self destruction

I’m not really sure about that part. No doubt we’ve been self-warring for ages, but as long as there was new territory to expand in to, with new resources to be plundered and used, I doubt there was any real risk of a species self-destruction.

Really, I think it’s more like a problem of: 1) spreading across almost any place inhabitable across the planet, 2) laying claim to and using up all available resources in such demesne, polluting willy-nilly, and most especially 3) thinking that “the industrial age” (combined with capitalism) was some kind of genius formula for making sapiens ‘better than ever.’ Creating a global, vastly-overpopulated sapiens powder keg, if you will.

OTOH, when you look at a continent like N. America-- if the natives hadn’t been fucked with over & over again by Euro colonists, I would guess they could have gone on for many tens of thousands of years just like they did, living perfectly authentic, interesting, meaningful lives without all the ‘advancement of technology’ shizzle.

Cue Jon Belushi exclamation…

IMO this is generally true, but not always. You look at the States, roughly mid-30’s to mid-70’s, and it really was a period of greatness for most folks, from top to bottom. (altho not so much for various minorities, which is a real mark of shame for the first modern democracy)

Anyway yeah, the “aliens” in question are simply us, doing all this to ourselves and the very home that birthed us dangerous, naked apes.

Just because I’m currently reading “Sapiens,” consider that we sprang up out of E. Africa ~70K yrs ago, and ~20K yrs later shared the planet with FIVE other human species. A mere ~20K yrs later, we and whatever other natural forces had eradicated all the others (including our closest relatives, Neanderthals). In terms of a ‘murder mystery,’ it doesn’t look all that great of a case for our innocence, haha. 😑

Some interesting faces in the crowd. On the right, a very young Ben Stiller relative. Behind him, an elderly Forrest Gump who’s decided to do one last coast-to-coast run. :P

There’s even a sort of Jack Nicklaus / Arnold Palmer-looking guy to the left. All bases covered!

Occasionally I get in to a whistling mode, as we all do. One day as I did, Yanni-kitty was in the area and came rushing up, squeaking up a little squeak-storm. Sadly, she’s passed on now, but I look back fondly of our many, pleasant little ‘duets’… a counterpoint of whistles and squeaks, if you will.

And then Bunny (her fleece as white as snow), she was a great goalkeeper. We would situate at either end of a long hallway, and my job was to speedily roll and hop pennies past her, in order to score a ‘goal.’ To her credit, she had a ~99% save rate.

But in general, here’s a song I enjoy singing to my pets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxuFUiNPPE

(Funnily enough, I first heard it on Futurama, on the Bender’s origin story ep!)

Oh dear. oO

Looks like this is just another bot / AI acct. Guess I’ll report it after yesterday’s mess. I really hope this doesn’t turn in to a constant problem, going forward…

Anyway, as long as we’re here, how do you like to search YT? A year or two ago I was surprised to learn that I could search Google videos and find stuff on YT that didn’t actually appear in YT searches. Some real irony, there.

Sounds good; thanks for sharing!

Over here, I’ve been enjoying Vietnamese spring roll wrappers (not fried) to make my rolls, these days. I think maybe I’ll try quinoa as a base next time, in place of my beloved SCO (steel-cut oats).