Vaccination enhances natural immunity. You are both stupid and dangerous

This also applies to Covid

It is true that natural infection almost always causes better immunity than vaccines. Whereas immunity from disease often follows a single natural infection, immunity from vaccines usually occurs only after several doses. However, the difference between vaccination and natural infection is the price paid for immunity:

The price paid for immunity after natural infection might be pneumonia from chickenpox, intellectual disability from Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), pneumonia from pneumococcus, birth defects from rubella, liver cancer from hepatitis B virus, or death from measles. Immunization with vaccines, like natural infections, typically induces long-lived immunity. But unlike natural infection, immunization does not extract such a high price for immunity; that is, immunization does not cause pneumonia, intellectual disability, birth defects, cancer or death. If you could see the world from the perspective of your immune system, you would realize that where the virus or bacteria comes from is irrelevant. Your immune system “sees” something that is foreign, attacks it, disables it and then adds information to the memory bank, so your body can react more quickly the next time that same foreign invader arrives.

The differences between a vaccine and getting the disease naturally are the dose and the known time of exposure:

Dose — When someone is exposed to viruses or bacteria naturally, the dose is often larger, so the immune response that develops will typically be greater — as will the symptoms. However, when scientists are designing vaccines, they determine the smallest amount of virus or bacteria needed to generate a protective immunologic response. In this situation, more is not necessarily better. Time of exposure — Most of the time, we do not know when we are exposed to viruses and bacteria; however, when we get a vaccine, we know about the exposure. In essence, we are controlling exposure to the viruses or bacteria that the vaccines protect against because we know when and where they occur. In contrast, and more typical of the norm, we don’t know what viruses or bacteria we are exposed to from the trip to get the vaccine — the door knob, the office, the books in the waiting room, or the toddler at the restaurant we go to after the office visit. Luckily, most of these exposures do not result in infections that our immune system is unable to control. Of interest, a few vaccines induce a better immune response than natural infection:

Human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine — The high purity of the specific protein in the vaccine leads to a better immune response than natural infection.

Tetanus vaccine — The toxin made by tetanus is so potent that the amount that causes disease is actually lower than the amount that induces a long-lasting immune response. This is why people with tetanus disease are still recommended to get the vaccine.

Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccine — Children less than 2 years old do not typically make a good response to the complex sugar coating (polysaccharide) on the surface of Hib that causes disease; however, the vaccine links this polysaccharide to a helper protein that creates a better immune response than would occur naturally. Therefore, children less than 2 years old who get Hib are still recommended to get the vaccine.

Pneumococcal vaccine — This vaccine works the same way as the Hib vaccine to create a better immune response than natural infection.

So, in summary, vaccines afford us protection with lesser quantities of virus or bacteria and the control of scheduling the exposure.

No, because to be naturally immune, you have to get sick. A vaccine lets me become immune without getting sick.

I reject the premise. People have varying strengths of their immune system outside of autoimmune diseases, they’re not equal. One person’s natural ability to fight off a disease is not the same as another’s. Immune systems also can get overwhelmed. People can even get multiple viruses at the same time.

While scientifically, if I’m not mistaken, natural immunity tends to be a stronger form of immunity once the person survives a disease, surviving the disease is of course not a guarantee for anyone. Vaccination, when available, reduces the chance a person dies to a disease in the same way that warning somebody about something allows them to take preparatory action.

Prefer? Vaccination every time if available. I don’t like getting diseases my body has to scramble to fight.

VACCINE IMMUNITY IS YOUR AMAZING IMMUNE SYSTEM

Vaccines are by far the most live saving medical prevention device ever. The problem with your argument is that you assume you recover 100% from every disease. Smallpox scarred millions of people. Research is coming out that the flu has long term effects on human health. Rather than see how strong your immune system is, wouldn’t you rather prepare your immune system for the possibility of sickness? You’re right that our immune systems are amazing. They can amazingly recognize diseases they’ve never actually seen before, because we showed them examples of the diseases first.

Get vaccinated. Don’t roll the dice with how stronk you are.

What I prefer is not getting sick and dying. I prefer following science. I prefer following government guidelines for keeping distance, washing my hands and wearing a mask when required.

You sir are a moron

I love natural immunity. That’s why I jump start it by introducing a weakened or dead version of the virus to my immune system, so I’m protected before I’m ever actually exposed.

Our immune system is amazing? Yes, it is! Wiil it protect us against every pathogen in existence? No! Can vaccines help? Yes. Source: History.

I prefer following science rather then quackery. People forget what the world was like before vaccinations, floride, and public health. Sadly in the US the quacks are in charge now.

So yes vax for me,

Do you prefer natural insulation against the cold over clothes?

Wow that is a complete misunderstanding of how those jabs work. They don’t give you any actual immunity, they are training material for your body to understand how to fight those viruses.

COVID destroys your natural immunity, it progressively gives you an autoimmune disease. I have some obscure health quibbles with Moderna and Pfizer etc, but the main issue was turning the vaccines into a tool of imperialism. If I could have waved a magic wand I would have chosen a vaccine developed in China or Nicaragua.

The natural immunity does not come from rolling around in the dirt. Shit like that actually taxes your immune surveillance and makes you get precancerous growths skirting by undetected. The immune system and the brain are not your biceps or your heart, and for that matter, prolonged muscle strain weakens while resistance training strengthens. Is going to the gym natural? No it’s superior and augments natural fitness.

Natural immunity comes from keeping your blood sugar low overall and without spikes, having a healthy amt of fiber, protein, potassium, physical activity, low stress. This rejuvenates the cute little cellular sugar forcefields we all love so the spike protein cannot get through

This post is a master class in framing.