Dacor Stove
In 2006 my wife and I moved into a new house and bought a Dacor RSD30S stove.
Dacor made parts for the thing for TWO YEARS and that’s it. I owned it for 12 years and it went through three igniters and the door handle broke. The first igniter broke within 18 months and I was able to replace it with a new one. The second one went out at around 5 years and the part was already discontinued. Fortunately, the parts guy I was ordering from was very familiar with Dacor and said that the igniter from the new model would work, the bracket would just need to be drilled to mount it. It took me all of 5 minutes. The third one went out and I was screwed. So I spent about 2 years manually igniting my “modern” duel fuel range. Even when it did work, Dacor used one igniter coil for all four igniters. If they were not all perfectly clean the current would only go to one with the least impedance and the rest wouldn’t work.
I was never able to fix the broken handle.
Dacor… Never again.
Contrast that with the stove I replaced the Dacor with, a Wolf DF304. Granted, we’re talking about a very high end range vs a middle of the road POS. However, Wolf has not changed the design of the DF304 in 25 years. I actually bought my Wolf 2nd hand, hence why I could afford it. It was 8 years old when I bought it. Wolf not only still has all the parts for it in stock, the stove is still in production. It currently is 14 years old and works like new, compared to the Dacor being 12 years old and completely clapped out. Also Wolf uses independent coils for each igniter, so the current doesn’t flow to the igniter with the least impedance like the Dacor.
I know this sounds like a case of “you get what you paid for”, but that Dacor new was $2500, so not exactly cheap.
And don’t even get me started on General Electric appliances…
Windows and ios
School just got 30 new laptops because of the tpm requirement on windows 11 just like Microsoft planned.
I would not mind helping them with Linux of any distro even after Im done learning there because it’s so much better
Viagra
Microsoft Windows10
My body. Shits getting worse by the day.
Phones. Windows.
My Chevy Volt 2013, which still runs great, no longer has OnStar because they never planned for a way to upgrade the connectivity when 3G networks were retired. So I am concretely less safe when driving and lose other useful features like remote start, milage tracking, etc.
you are better off without remote control systems like that
I would say you’re better off just because they can’t auto-brick your car remotely because your account isn’t up to date.
To add insult to injury, they are fully capable of adding the 4g module because Canadian Volts were able to be upgraded. GM decided to not let US owners pay for the upgrade, because fuck us that’s why.
Not sure if this qualifies as planned obsolescence but Acer stopped supporting a tablet I bought in less than two years. I have been avoiding Acer products ever since.
Dishwashers, the 3 most recent dishwashers that I have had experience using across 3 very different households and use levels, from 3 different manufacturers, have all had minor to major faults in the 4-5 years since installation, just after the warranty period ended.
Mostly drawer and roller related, but also a pump failure.
Samsung washing machine. I watched a YouTube video about how they deliberately chose a material that wears out after like 4 or 5 years for a critical component. Real cool, thanks Samsung.
Not just Samsung, all manufacturers.
Sum spider and drum with two dissimilar metals that react and eats the drum spider away with use?
They’ve been doing it for decades at this point. No idea why people buy Samsung appliances.
Then again even Bosch and Miele have started using plastic welded drums which prevent repair of simple parts like bearings and motors so… Fuck us all I guess.
That’s the one. It was my mom’s. I told her to get a speed queen if she wanted to spend money like that, but she didn’t listen, and the POS broke like 5 minutes after the warranty was up.
Is it easy to repair, or also deliberately made difficult?
They are hoping for people to get a new one. One of the drain pipe is made of plastic that is brittle after 4 years! There are Tupperwares that last 5 times than that without breaking. I refuse to believe its not a conscious decision for it to break. And no aftermarket alternative. You need $110 parts from Samsung supplier!
Ah yes, proprietary parts also get you.
New appliances. A matter of time until the fridge chokes itself since the coils are covered in dust and impossible to reach without tipping the whole fridge over. Also sorely regret replacing the old electromechanical washer instead of repairing it. New one fills with too little water at random and apparently it’s a controller board issue with no easy fix in sight.
Also Apple mobile devices, I understand they can’t keep supporting them forever, but the bootloader’s locked so I can’t even put something less demanding on it.
Wow you totally reminded me of this building I managed several years back now, and they all had washing machines with that only filled a few inches, maybe 8 at most.
It was explained to me by my appliance tech, perhaps he’s not entirely correct on somebody may inform me better… But he said they were built to some water savings standard from california, and rather than making different models for different markets, they just foisted the low water ones on people.
I remember endless grieving from residents. I also remember a very common complaint of the person above them using their washing machine for 9 hours a day. Well fucking yeah, try having two working parents and three kids and seeing how much laundry you can get done in those pieces of shit!
For sure. Mine did fill higher when it was new, but the low water level issue developed a few years in.
Mine is like that, but it has a “deep water” mode that I select almost every time.
Probably doesn’t count as I didn’t buy it, so I’m technically not dealing with it. But let’s talk about electric riding lawnmowers. Last year I was looking to replace my 20+ year old riding lawnmower with an electric one. Could not find a single manufacturer who would also provide the parts lists. Digging deeper, seems like they simply do not sell parts, like at all. The mowers just aren’t repairable - straight up, if it breaks, buy a new one. That’s irresponsible when talking about an electric drill, but a full riding mower? WTF?
To be fair, this might be a chicken & egg problem. Low adoption rates means there’s a very small market for parts, so there’s no aftermarket support. And that aftermarket is where I get parts for my current mower. So maybe it’s not fair to blame the manufacturer? But I think that’s a stretch. From where I’m standing, it sure looks like intentional planned obsolescence.
John Deere ztracks have replacement part lists I managed to find on a retailer website. Most of the parts for mowers are off the shelf anyway, I would imagine the power supply stuff is off the shelf too.
eh, they are already making the parts anyway. just make them available on order or something, not ideal but acceptable. beats forcing consumers to take a leap of faith for a product that looks pretty clearly to be disposable.
I’ve never personally dealt with them and don’t ever intend to get a Switch 2 so I probably won’t deal with them, although I can imagine them being catastrophic when Nintendo eventually sunsets the console in question, but Switch 2 Game-Key Cards.
I can not understand why GKC specifically are getting targeted with the hate when the whole “Physical, but actually it’s a download key” bullshit is rampant on all systems.
Do they suck? Absolutely. But at least you can resell them, and they’re labeled. Better than “Download key in a box”
I’m targeting them specifically because although Nintendo says they’re portable and will last, what if Nintendo decides to revoke all those download keys when they sunset the Switch 2 instead of allowing them to be redeemed on the Switch 3, if there even will be a Switch 3 and the entire gaming industry doesn’t collapse before such a console has a chance to even go into conception?
You’ll have larger amounts of now-useless plastic littering landfills than with the optical discs that are glorified license keys on the PS and Xbox consoles.
Windows 11 refusing to install on hardware it can absolutely run on.
IP rating on smartphones so there’s seals and glue everywhere and opening them up is a fucking nightmare.
the worst part is that there are plenty of examples of older phones that achieved high IP ratings while also being more repairable. they just gaslight us into accepting it.
(also obligatory 🐧)
My desktop won’t run Windows 11 according to Windows 11. But if I make a VM with fake TPM on it, it will run perfectly well inside a VM on a machine that won’t run it lol
It wouldn’t install on an all-in-one PC I was selling, until I clicked the bypass options (RAM, TPM, etc) in Rufus
Dumbest thing about those IP ratings is that they don‘t even provide any warranty rights for water damage.
“IP rating only describes the sealing properties at the time of assembly and may deteriorate with time.” my ass!
Windows 11 refusing to install on hardware it can absolutely run on.
RUFUS is not only a great tool with which to build your USB installer (it has an option to download the correct and latest ISO directly from Microsoft), but in the subsequent steps it also asks if you want to modify the installer in some pretty useful ways. Such as bypassing a Microsoft account in favour of a local account, and neutering some of the more recent requirements. IIRC the TPM 2.0 requirement can still be nerfed.
U can still force an install on older hardware, I did it on my old Lenovo laptop and have t had an issue! Just takes a command to make it install despite “not officially being supported”
I know, but many people barely know what “supported hardware even mean”, they will see the message " this computer won’t receive any more updates" and simply buy a new one.
An unfortunate product of our consumer society :/ nobody knows shit about the crap they use every day any more! I remember when owning a car meant learning to do spark plugs and oil changes, now most people couldn’t hang their spare on the side of the road if their life depended on it nevermind be bothered to figure out what hardware is in their porn browsing device.
@innermachine @bobo1900 As of recently, you can officially install Win11 on unsupported hardware, you just have to click a prompt acknowledging that you’re on your own when you do it.
However, there’s nothing saying MS won’t rugpull that and start blocking Win11 on unsupported hardware again.
Washing machines. In the stores, you see a shiny stainless steel drum, but holding up the drum is a raw aluminum spindle. Those spindles corrode with typically caustic laundry detergents to last about 6 years. Replacement was possible, with a day of work. Now, manufacturers seal the drum unit with welded plastic so replacement is impossible.
Win11… The amount of perfectly good hardware that became ewaste in October is insane to me
