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  • I think we agree in principle.

    I think if one conceptualize “deliciousness” as a “property that induces joy” and “not deliciousness” as a “property that induces suffering” as being distinct measures, then it makes sense to conceptualize puritan values as saying they don’t value “deliciousness”.

    If you conceptualize “deliciousness” as having a negative axis, then Puritains DO value deliciousness, but along the negative axis, which is irregular and noteworthy, but still valuing deliciousness.

    Same goes for suffering vs enjoyment. If you consider them independent vs as it being one measure with negative values.

    I’m considering them as the same but with a negative axis. I feel like that’s where the gap is. I think ultimately we’re in agreement.




  • Well, at the risk of being pedantic, you literally said:

    food is just nutrition

    I understand now what you intended to communicate (which is strictly different than what you said)

    I got excited when I read what you said, because i thought you actually had an example of a culture for whom food is just nutrition. It’s a sci-fi trope that i find interesting because it is truly alien, and I’ve always wondered if any real culture fit that.

    Even in puritan cultures that intentionally eat plain food to shun “hedonism”, food becomes a vehicle for virtue signaling. The suffering is a ritual practice. Food, even then, plays a critical cultural role.

    I understand what you mean now. I’m just disappointed.




  • People keep making this broad assertion and then not following up.

    I’m not saying you’re wrong, but if there are many cultures for whom food is merely nutrition, could you name one?

    From an anthropological standpoint, I’d be fascinated.

    Like, this thread is full of jokes about how some cultures have shitty food, but that subjective assessment is very different than the idea that food’s mere purpose is nutrition. It implies it has no ceremonial use.

    So, of the many, just even tell us one.








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