People like these should be just stripped of their citizenship. They obviously don’t care about the country and shouldn’t have any rights in governing it.
Also there are so many options still left before we send people to war. We still havent properly sanctioned Russia at all. There is still money being funneled to Russia in the billions for oil and such. We still havent seized all their assets. We arent sanctioning China. If this situation is serious enough to call for forced conscription, then i want my country to use all possible non military methods to starve Russia of resources first.
I didn’t mean to offend you, what I meant to convey is: my nation does not provide me something worth defending at the cost of my life. It is not black and white, I am also not sure of what I’d do if my country was invaded.
my nation does not provide me something worth defending at the cost of my life.
I get that young people are angry at german politics (and rightfully so). But at least we get to live in a mostly democratic, free country, where you can express that anger and not governed by a power hungry dictator that will have you prisoned and/or killed for criticising them. That alone seems worth defending for me.
I might sound rude, but I can’t express this thought in a nice way: your unwillingness to take weapons and defend yourself is the very reason why “my nation does not provide me”. What are you? Nothing. Foreign armies and local governments understand only force. And oppression is their only tool. Democracy works only while “demos” demands. Asking and begging don’t work. Asking and begging are for slaves.
You will be a slave until you get a weapon and become a power to reckon with. Before that, “providing you” is a waste of resources.
Yet another stupid take from this account, almost like it’s on purpose.
“Being provided something” does not mean “getting it for free”. We are paying taxes and a lot of them. “Being provided something” is the other side of the deal.
People like these should be just stripped of their citizenship. They obviously don’t care about the country and shouldn’t have any rights in governing it.
You go die for corporations and oligarchs then, I don’t want to.
Also there are so many options still left before we send people to war. We still havent properly sanctioned Russia at all. There is still money being funneled to Russia in the billions for oil and such. We still havent seized all their assets. We arent sanctioning China. If this situation is serious enough to call for forced conscription, then i want my country to use all possible non military methods to starve Russia of resources first.
Ok, wait until they kill you.
I didn’t mean to offend you, what I meant to convey is: my nation does not provide me something worth defending at the cost of my life. It is not black and white, I am also not sure of what I’d do if my country was invaded.
I get that young people are angry at german politics (and rightfully so). But at least we get to live in a mostly democratic, free country, where you can express that anger and not governed by a power hungry dictator that will have you prisoned and/or killed for criticising them. That alone seems worth defending for me.
Yeah and how long is that going to be the case? Once the AfD comes into power all of that might be over. Fuck germany.
For what do you think the chat filter are going to be used?
There’s not a lot you could do and none of it would be preferable to not getting invaded in the first place.
Idk, it was very preferable for my grandparents to get their country invaded 👌
What country was that?
Germany
I might sound rude, but I can’t express this thought in a nice way: your unwillingness to take weapons and defend yourself is the very reason why “my nation does not provide me”. What are you? Nothing. Foreign armies and local governments understand only force. And oppression is their only tool. Democracy works only while “demos” demands. Asking and begging don’t work. Asking and begging are for slaves.
You will be a slave until you get a weapon and become a power to reckon with. Before that, “providing you” is a waste of resources.
Yet another stupid take from this account, almost like it’s on purpose.
“Being provided something” does not mean “getting it for free”. We are paying taxes and a lot of them. “Being provided something” is the other side of the deal.
Slaves don’t make deals; slaves pay tribute to their masters.
Cringe lol
Which weapon do you have?
Ad hominem is considered a very weak argument since 3-5 grade of school.
It can be generalized:
Why should people fight in a war if they are not allowed to have weapons now?
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When are you signing up?
I’m from Ukraine, and I was at the front as a trench infantry.