cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48176362
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48176361
I like community builders and games that I can keep a world for years and grow, watch it evolve. I enjoy Rimworld. ARK evolved series is good.
Bonus if it’s multiplayer capable LAN and not online.
Oxygen not included is nice but mentally taxing sometimes. I prefer laid back chill games with economy and farming. 2d or 3d doesn’t matter. I don’t mind trying indie games. Survival based games are nice. I’m not super pick and choose.
Give me your greatest joy in game form. I’ve heard Stardew Valley is good. I tried it, reminds me of a gameboy game. I could not get into the game. My character kept falling asleep like 14 times in a day.
Xcom 2: War of the chosen
Do you know of Songs of Syx?
A bit like a large-scale rimworld, with a focus on managing a big population and world diplomacy/war.
A bit hard to get into, though.
Also, what about project zomboid? A bit far from your description I guess, but who knows.
I tried the demo of song of styx but didn’t really manage to do anything because I didn’t understand the menu symbols. Is there a tutorial or something that I missed?
I think there is a tutorial but I didn’t touch it, I just started my hemp empire.
I wish I could recommend this game. It clicks all my boxes for this type of simulation. Problem is it runs like dog shit on my PC. Without fail on both native and proton versions it will drop frames after about 20 minutes of game play. Doesn’t matter if it’s a new map or a big city. The game is super smooth then out of nowhere the frame rate tanks to a stuttery mess. I’ve looked around for a solution and it seems like there is a fix for the problem but it doesn’t ever work on my machine. Something tells me that writing the game in Java means the memory management side of the code goes fucking bonkers after 20 minutes. I’ve tried the discord and Steam forums but nothing ever gets resolved.
Then there’s an even more extreme bug where if the game doesn’t like my Wayland compositor it hard locks my PC on startup. It’s so frustrating. It’s a great game but it’s technically flawed.
Openttd trains for ever
Starbound and Terraria come to mind. Also Planet Centauri and maybe Stardew Valley.
Also Minecraft if a DRM-free version other than the Pi Edition (which is abandoned) ever comes.
Since when did Minecraft have DRM? The only real DRM on it is logging in with a microsoft account that owns the game. You don’t even need to use the official launcher.
Afaik, the Java version is only accessible with an account, 3rd party launchers potentially being considered cracking means. Bedrock version is tied to its platforms’ DRMs, like Win10’s Microsoft Store validation and a hard-to-access folder which changing permissions is a nightmare, and Google Play Services’ validation on Android.
As for console versions, major consoles have DRM to their games by default, with a case like PS Vita games even requiring the user to create a dummy validation file by launching the game once to be able to use backups (also iirc all Vita cartridges have a self-explanatory gro0:/DRM/ folder). And as for cartridge overall, be them Nintendo’s, Sony’s, etc., being hard to access their contents due to using non-standard could be considered DRM, and some cases formally considering as in the DMCA.
So sounds to me like it has DRM in most versions, yeah.
3rd party launchers potentially being considered cracking means.
No, they directly integrate with the authentication servers and download the files straight from mojang. You even get an official prompt in a browser login window to connect your account to the third party launcher.
Login to access the contents afaik is still DRM, even if it takes more steps.
If it is DRM, it’s hardly the DRM that people complain about. It’s pretty ethical DRM. If this was a strictly offline computer, you can even install Minecraft on a USB drive and move the installation over.
I’d need to check how long the validation lasts, since it may be well be like emulated PS1 games from the PSN (“PSOne Classics”) and Steam’s offline mode, both that take a few years to reset, but neither permanent.
But about people complaining, they usually do so only for problems that are obvious to them. And the obvious is usually immediate.
And if it takes a few months/years to expire, I’d say it is not ethical, but pretty vile, as then people will not notice the problem at first, and when they do, they may no longer access their contents.
And considering people that forgot to upgrade their original Mojang accounts, or didn’t have access to the needed tools while the change to Microsoft accounts happened, there is a precedent for Minecraft validation methods to not become available any longer.
Also, from my experience with Windows Vista, where even though I have an actually original key for it, if I try to install Vista nowadays and try to connect it to the internet, it will lock the whole system from my access on the next start-up, I’d imagine because it can’t reach the validation servers. So I’ve seen first hand how Microsoft’s preservation goes over several years. And since Minecraft may also be used online due to multiplayer, checks may still happen, and being nowadays also a Microsoft product, it may suffer from the same vices of origin.
logging in with a microsoft account
Well that is a big no.
Just make a burner?
That’s weird. Why would I do that?
Because you don’t want to use Microsoft’s ecosystem? It’ll just be the same as any other account
If I don’t want to use them, I am not making an account. I already have a billion accounts I don’t need yet another, and certainly not a Microsoft one.
But go back to the original question OP posed: two distinct things, Offline and Long Term.
I don’t trust Microsoft, Minecraft is dead to me and I cannot count on them long-term.
Requiring an account is not offline.
So Minecraft does not meet op’s requirements.
Luanti is basically open-source minecraft
Factorio is great, how has no one mentioned it yet? Also Dwarf Fortress, Into the breach and “FTL - Faster Than Light”.
They all have native ports and are moddable.
Factorial and FTL even have huge overhaul mods, that change most stuff so they don’t really get boring.
If you like 4x games, I would suggest X3:Terran Conflict/Albion Prelude from Egosoft. Its older, so wont be a burden,(CONTROVERSIAL OPINION ALERT) and probably the last good game from egosoft (/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION ALERT)
Space game set in a huge world with multiple factions and in a breathing world that can and does change with time with or without your actions… hundreds of hours of gameplay, with options for building your own empire… and its got a huge modding scene that can make it even more alive.
Once you start getting your personal economy going, you can take a more macro chill approach to the game, you can sit in a mothership issuing fleet commands and letting the AI handle everything, or you can get right into the cockpit of a corvette/fighter and dogfight yourself. While building massive station complexes to produce goods to sell and generate funds with… or to build your own ships and fleets with.
Barony mayb slay da spire 2
Factorio
Was gonna suggest that, too, but he wants laid back and chill.
I suppose if he disabled biters it could be more laid back
Minecraft: Java Edition. You need internet the first time, but afterwards it’s fully playable offline and also has LAN support built in.
I think you mispelled Luanti.
I think you forgot to switch over to the account that made this post
Huh? What are you talking about?
You aren’t OP yet you’re answering as if you were.
No, they didnt.
Rimworld.
FYI - I’ve only downvoted you becuase OP already mentioned Rimworld and said he enjoys it.
Fair. I read faster than my brain processes sometimes.
Vintage Story. It’s a very good survival, very customizable experience too.
I think it’s a game that shines best in a multiplayer civilization RP tbh but even as a single player game it’s a very nice survival. It may look similar to Minecraft at first but it is very very different and in all the good ways.
Plus mod support is so good, by design, even the website itself has 1-click installs.
Oh and it has chiseling.
I hadn’t heard of that, looks really good!
Farming Simulator (pick which year/edition), it’s surprisingly relaxing after whole day in office.
Starbound! That game kicks ass.
Did they ever finish it or at least finish it enough? Played it a long time ago and it had so much potential.
Not really. But the game was open sourced a couple years ago and that with mods is pretty good.
Technically, Satisfactory (3D Factorio, but more chill) allows you to host your own servers. You can host a server in your LAN, connect to server via IP -> enter the server’s local IP.
There is also Terraria which is very low spec.
Vntage Story is pretty neat, it does require a WAN connection to start it for the first time but AFAIK it’s possible to play it completely offline afterwards.
Beimg as mechanically complex as it is you’d think you need a wiki open the entire time, but the ingame “guide” has everything you need to know.
I don’t know about the state of public multiplayer servers, but it is LAN compatible and it actively supports modding!
I have had it check my account after long periods of not starting the game. Infrequent internet connections briefly appear to be required to play it. Not sure how hard that would be to bypass.
So if you are going to be without internet for a very long time then you may want to look into that in more detail. Otherwise, great game.
