• steeznson@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Have any other devs tried using LLMs for work? They’ve been borderline useless for me.

    Also the notion of creating a generation of devs who have no idea what they are writing and no practice of resolving problems “manually” seems insanely dumb.

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      47 minutes ago

      The saddest part is the devs that aggressively use AI will probably keep their jobs, vs the “Non-AI” devs. I still acknowledge there “IS” a use for LLMs but we already have been losing humanity, especially in the states rapidly for a decade now, I don’t wanna lose more.

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      I used them on some projects but it feels like copilot is still the best application of the tech and even that is very ummm hit or miss.

      Writing whole parts of the application using AI usually led to errors that I needed to debug and coding style and syntax were all over the place. Everything has to be thoroughly reviewed all the time and sometimes the AI codes itself into a dead end and needs to be stopped.

      Unfortunately I think this will lead to small businesses vibe coding some kind of solution in AI and then resorting to real people to debug whatever garbage they „coded“ which will create a lot of unpleasant work for devs.

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      Some LLMs are better than others. ChatGPT is pretty good at Python code. It is very limited on its ability to write fully functioning code but it can toss together individual functions fairly well. I think most people have a fundamental understanding of how to write a question and set parameters for LLMs. This is leading to the “AI Bad!” circle jerk. Its no different than any other new tool.

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      It is nice for when you need a quick and dirty little fix that would require you to read a lot of documentation and skim through a lot of jnfo you will never need again. Like converting obsolete config file format #1 to obsolete format #2. Or to summatize documentation in general, although one needs to be careful with hallucinations. Basically, you need a solid understanding already, and can judge if something is plausible or not. Also, if you need standard boilerplate, of course.

      It sucks most when you need any kind of contextual knowledge, obviously. Or need accountability. Or reliable complexity. Or something new and undocumented.

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        Last time I used one, I was trying to get help writing a custom naming strategy for a Java ObjectMapper. Mostly written python in my career so just needed the broad strokes of it to be filled in.

        It gave me some example code that looked plausible but in actuality was the exact inverse of how you are supposed to implement it. Took me like a day and a half to debug it; reckon I could have written it in an afternoon by going straight to the documentation.

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    You guys are thinking this from a selfish perspective. You have to look at it from your employer. If they don’t do it. Other company’s will. Then they’ll feel left out. Have you been to a yacht party where you’re the only one that hasn’t fired your employees? Goddamned miserable. /s

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    11 hours ago

    How about make people study for ten years and make them pay tens of thousands of dollars to do it … then tell them they didn’t do the right studying for the work you want them to do so you don’t want to hire them

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      4 hours ago

      Is it the one about the guy who finds a nice brick of aged cheddar on their fridge that they had forgotten and get to enjoy the salty deliciousness? No… Wait … That’s just me fantasizing about tasty cheese.