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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Am I? More people voted against Trump than for him. If the third-party voters accepted that they can’t change the rigged system by voting third-party, Harris would’ve won.

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      16 hours ago

      If the dems had catered to voters instead of kneeling in front of a foreign apartheid state and its genocide, Harris would have won.

      Politicians can choose what they represent and the platform they put forward. I don’t want to have to vote for genocide so democracy can live again, I want the dems to drop their pro-genocide stance. Blaming voters is the opposite of asking for change.

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            9 hours ago

            Are you for real?

            Trump repealed restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a settlement after him in occupied Golan Heights. He also said Israel needs to “finish the job” and stop recording their atrocities because they’re “losing the PR war.”

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              8 hours ago

              What a shock that liberals care more about what Trump says than what Biden did. The Democrats fully supported Isreal “finishing the job,” but you only care about it when Trump says it.

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                A lot of good your moral superiority is doing for the Palestinians now, huh? Upgrading the 5-ton bombs to 10-tonners, with plans to pave over the West Bank for a billionaire resort.

                You really think that would’ve happened under Harris? Get real.

                Also, I don’t know what liberals you’re referring to. I’m a progressive.

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                  Also, I don’t know what liberals you’re referring to. I’m a progressive.

                  As I’ve explained elsewhere in this post, unless you want to abolish private ownership of the means of production, you’re probably a liberal. The vast majority of both Democrats and Republicans are liberals. Progressive liberals like Bernie Sanders are still liberals. Sanders will say that It’s OK to Be Angry About Capitalism, and he’ll complain about crony capitalism and über capitalism, but he’ll never question capitalism as such. He’ll never question private ownership of the means of production, in the sanctity of private property.

                  Almost the only people who aren’t liberals are either socialists or fascists, and even fascists believe in capitalism just as liberals do.

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                    8 minutes ago

                    If we’re speaking ideally, absolutely. All non-capitalists are forced to make concessions living in a capitalist nation. I’ve been left of the democrats since the 90s. I vote for the leftmost candidate that has a chance of winning the election. Unfortunately, that’s usually the Working Families Democrat.

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                  Upgrading the 5-ton bombs to 10-tonners,

                  It’s telling that you only care about symbolic bullshit like this, almost like you only care about finding moral liscense to support genocide. Isreal had all the bomb it needed under Biden; his symbolic restrictions saved exactly ZERO Palestinian lives. But you don’t care about Palestinian lives, you care about symbolic acts.

                  with plans to pave over the West Bank for a billionaire resort.

                  Those plans were there under Biden too, you just are only willing to admit it when it’s Trump doing that. In that sense, Biden was even worse; because liberals like you are genocide deniers when it’s your team doing it.

                  You really think that would’ve happened under Harris? Get real.

                  Yes, 100% it would, genocide denier. The only thing that would have been different under Harris is that you would have pretended it wasn’t happening, and the US would still be massacring Yemeni on behalf of Isreal.

                  Also, I don’t know what liberals you’re referring to. I’m a progressive.

                  Progressives don’t support genocidal fascists.

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                    Who said I support genocidal fascists? You’re the one who threw their vote out instead of stopping the election of the genocidal fascist. I voted for the genocidal liberal, because I understand the concept of the lesser of two evils, and know how to leverage what little say I have in this horribly corrupt and broken system.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Hey, it’s the self admitted troll who has dedicated themself to stalking every single comment I make because they got big mad I said genocide denial is bad.