St. Louis Mayor Cara Spencer told MSNBC on Monday that FEMA had yet to assist after the city was ravaged by a tornado days prior.
The tornado first touched down in St. Louis on Friday. The storm — reportedly 20 miles in length at its strongest — killed at least five people in St. Louis County at the time of writing. Spencer reported during a press conference that 38 people had been injured, and that number was expected to increase as recovery efforts continued.
Friday’s tornado was one of many that affected the region over the weekend, with Kentucky also being hit by storms. At the time of writing, dozens of the dead had already been found.
Huh…wonder why that is. Must be a coincidence i guess
Remember when Republicans were forming posses and threatening FEMA employees with guns during Milton and Helene and then the organization was gutted during the California fires?
Pepperidge Farms remembers!
I 'member
Goddamn there are some ignorant fucks in this thread.
I live in this shithole state (on the opposite side of St. Louis, but still), but 99% of the people I know here aren’t conservative in the slightest. But that’s not gonna stop people from blanket labelling the entire state as redneck hillbilly fascist fucks.
Please, do better and realize that St. Louis itself probably has most of the liberals in the state so you’re attacking your own interests.
Unfortunately, the EC and Senate both mean that if 51% of voters in a state vote R, all other votes don’t count. Here in California we have more redneck hillbilly fascist fucks than several of the red states combined, but they’re outnumbered.
Sry, we don’t use nuance here.
Republicans aren’t giving aid to red as shit counties so unfortunately a blue county isn’t going get anything unfortunately and knowing Republicans, they’ll try to charge them for just reaching out.
it took 1-2 months for huckabee to finally plee for assistance from his former employer trump after the tornados hit.
“Please FEMA come save us. Oh, you were defunded. How about just helping the whites? The straight ones. “ -MAGAcuck
Its not even defunded. Its an actual act of the president to ignore declaration requests.
Its also just had massively swept funds that are instead being appropriated to ICE.
Wait a month or two, ADA will kick in.
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St. Louis voted overwhelmingly for Kamala.
Which is why they’re not getting the requested aid… Well, actually, the local emergency manager has to make the disaster declaration to the state and have all their local and mutual aid resources exhausted. Then if the state approves a state disaster, the governor can request a presidential disaster declaration (PDD).
IF the cheeto agreed, that would free up a willing FEMA to respond to requests. However, we now have a FEMA Director that wants to eliminate the agency, so who knows. The whole thing is a shitshow.
And all their electoral votes went to Trump …
Which is a complaint about the electoral college, not STL voters. STL voted for a strong FEMA. But the city is getting trashed on both sides because conservatives hate them for being liberal, while liberals hate them for being in a conservative state.
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You obviously don’t know much about Missouri. St Louis may as well be a different state than the rest of Missouri when it comes to demographics. The city is about 42% white, while the state as a whole is 77% white, for example. The Black people living in Missouri largely don’t have white friends and family living in the countrysides they could have pleaded with to vote for Harris.
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Bruh what the fuck are you smoking?
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You seem to be sucking down some aggressively hateful ignorance.
We’re making the case that St Louis, which overwhelmingly voted for Harris, and was recently struck by a tornado, does not deserve to be lumped in with the rest of Missouri. They share very little in common politically, geographically, or demographically. The only thing they really share is a border on the Missouri River and a section of I-70.
Nobody here is praying for Uncle fuck and Jimbo down in Jeff City.
America will figure it out eventually
Everyone is on their own
Unless you’re a billionaire … your government has abandoned you
I lost my house to a forest fire when I was a kid and the help we got was literally life saving. This time around I’m already stockpiling dry food and water. Also been getting a bunch of work done on my car so it’s as reliable as possible just in case I need to leave in a hurry. Got my “oh shit” bag ready to go in my car too with some extra water and food in the trunk. I live in an area that’s prone to forest fires and flash floods so I’m not really taking any chances for when shit hits the fan. Usually I’d call this overkill but I don’t think that applies this time around knowing that no one is coming to help.
I suggest setting up a small NAS on the way to the garage and backing stuff up on it regularly, that way when you need to go, just unplug it and put it in your car, and you have a backup of your data should the shit hit the fan.
I very much like the sentiment, but I’d mostly advocate for a data backup that doesn’t require any particular effort or memory to preserve in an emergency.
Obviously everyone’s personal situation varies, but as a simple default I usually recommend that friends and family simply use whichever cloud drive service is available from the device manufacturer that stores their photos (ie, google Drive, Microsoft one drive, or Apple iCloud). Photos are almost always the most irreplaceable digital asset, storage is typically just a few bucks a month, and using the “default” provider usually requires zero skill, effort, or recurring action. Other than making sure you can afford the auto-debit each month, your backs are mostly foolproof.
Cons include a dependency on a cloud service, which has a recurring charge and a privacy impact. The charge is typically minor vs the cost of a NAS or similar, and most services have some privacy assurances that may be enough to ease your concern. Nobody will ever care as much about your backups as you, but in aggregate a team of skilled full time FAANG engineers is often a more robust administrator than a solo customer.
If you have the desire and resources, you could and should do both backups, or as many as you reasonably can manage in as many places as possible.
Cons include a dependency on a cloud service, which has a recurring charge and a privacy impact. The charge is typically minor vs the cost of a NAS or similar, and most services have some privacy assurances that may be enough to ease your concern.
With how places like the USA are degrading right now, the privacy impact is increasingly huge. Having a photo in your archive that could be flagged by an ML filter automatically as doing something now deemed “illegal” like having the wrong skin color is bad.
As for cost, you’d be surprised in that a few years of cloud or less can easily cost as much as a small NAS that can last a decade.
I’d advocate people learn how to preserve their data themselves, it is a good skill to have, and it helps strengthen data education in a time when Tech Bro companies want people as dumb and reliant on their tech as possible.
Easy enough to follow guides or ask an AI to set up a sync with another similar box at someone else’s house in a different city or state to have an offsite copy.
Set one up at a family or friends place. Encrypted and nightly backups. It’s off-site and no need to remember.
The issue I have with this is that you need to forward a port on the NAS, exposing it directly to the internet, not only in your own network, but at your friend’s or parent’s network, and unless they are interested enough in keeping the NAS patched and secure, you are not only responsible for the security of your own network, but of your friend’s or parent’s network as well.
I am an IT guy at work, I don’t want to be one at home also.
??? VPNs exist for a reason. You don’t go exposing yourself to the Internet.
Then you have a VPN service exposed on the internet that you need to keep patched.
They mentioned wildfires. If your house burns down in a wildfire, your buddy’s house three streets away is also going to be on fire.
Not if they are in another city or state, though. Easy to cover that contingency.
True, but most people have family in different states or counties. Even close friends would be fine with a setup like this. Do a swap, you give them your backup nas and they do the same. If they don’t know how to do this, show them how.
Yeah, the most useful backup is the one you’ll actually use. And people will actually use the first-party services, because they just work. There’s no real effort required on the individual’s side, it just happens automatically.
There’s a large self-hosting community on Lemmy, because it sort of goes hand in hand with the whole “anyone can spin up an instance and host Lemmy themselves” thing. But the reality is that self hosting takes work, and a whole fucking lot of learning if you’re not already familiar with how to do it. And it’s easy to fuck it up in ways that can leave you vulnerable to attacks. Many users wouldn’t even know how to register a domain, let alone how to point their hosted services to it.
If you want to self-host your backups, that’s great. I host mine. But I’m not going to advocate for casual users to start doing it, especially when it’s sensitive data like photos. You store that shit on the cloud because that’s the easiest way to accomplish the 3-2-1 backup method; 3 backups, 2 different types of storage media, 1 off site.
The cloud storage can absolutely be your offsite backup. Especially when dealing with something as wide-reaching as a wildfire. If your house burns down due to a wildfire, do you really think your buddy’s house two streets away will be a safe location for your offsite backup? Fuck no, because your buddy’s house is on fire too.
One approach is to use the NAS for all your daily self hosting needs and only use cloud services to store backup images of the NAS.
Very fair points, I just dislike the cloud so a local solution came to mind first
Americans already know this. We’ve known this for as long as we’ve been alive.
The recent events have made the surprise help go away… That sucks, but it’s not shocking. That’s how our society works. Everyone is on their own outside of local charities.
I haven’t had breakfast. I may have to go down there and check it out. Because understanding the magnitude of hurricane damage is the responsibility of just random strangers. If only there was a government agency that some but not all of our taxes were used to fund…
Sorry, that money was spent on two moist fighter jets.
Were they built in Berkeley, MO? Because lots of them were.
Excuse me. We don’t do that anymore here in the United States. Grab those bootstraps and shut the fuck up peasants. If you didn’t deserve it, almighty god wouldn’t have thrown that tornado at you. Don’t be a drain on the state. Leader has deals to make. These bombs ain’t gonna just drop all on their own. Besides, they’re working on a glorious parade for you. What more do you want?
If I die I just want to die knowing my president had a sweet-ass jet.
Better yet, a sweet ass-jet
Good ol’ XKCD 37
Don’t forget 1053
Next up is wildfire season, floods, hurricanes, oh my.
Trump season is here.
TRUMPNADO.
C’mon SyFy, I DARE YOU!!
TRUMPNADO: This summer, the Cheetos hit the fan!
shit-filled and a huuuuge splash radius.
How did Missouri vote again?
The cities always vote mostly blue. The rest of the state is what fucks everyone
Yeah, most states are pretty evenly purple when you actually get rid of the winner-takes-all map. Typically, the large cities go overwhelmingly blue while all of the hicks go overwhelmingly red. So the state’s balance is mostly based on the urban/rural divide.
It’s also why republicans have systematically been making it harder to vote in cities. Rural areas usually have no wait times for voting, because there are so few people. But urban areas can have wait times measuring 6-8 hours, because republicans have closed nearly all of the urban voting locations.
Thank you for this, STL went 81% for Harris. They don’t deserve this, places like Jefferson City does.
the gop has a stranglehold on blue counties in most red states.
It just drives me up a wall when people go all red vs blue states. Even the most liberal states have a third of their votes for Trump. Massachusetts voted 36% Trump, much greater margin than people in STL, yet no one says places like MA deserve this. Heck Trump received a greater percent of votes in Boston than he did in STL.
Have the day you voted for.
Just gonna put this out there, st Louis and much of the surrounding areas have large black communities. And between St Louis and Kansas city accounted for most of the votes for Biden and Democrats in the state. They didn’t vote for this even if the empty land in the rest of the state did.
Well that sucks.
Then be better/smarter in the future. Don’t condemn an entire state of people to shit just because you don’t like how some of them voted.
That’d be like me unironically condemning all of Florida (even the normal people that live there) just because I personally don’t like the governor/government of the state and policies they try to enact.
I think it’s important to make the distinction that not everyone in a certain part of the map deserves whatever tragedies happen to them. People are complex.
As someone that lives in one of those two areas it certainly does. Even then as a state we voted to take dark money out of politics, raise the minimum wage, and increase sick days for people. But then the slightly over half of the population that is severely LED poison votes in Republicans. Who writes deceptive bills aimed at undoing the will of the people. Or now not even making that much effort towards it and just saying they will not implement what was voted for. Those of us that live here don’t call it the state of misery for nothing.
Pretty sure FEMA no longer has the resources to help.
FEMA Does. The president needs to sign a declaration.
This is an act of ignorance and “pushing it back to the state” as has been the prerogative since the inauguration.
Thoughts and prayers bitches.
And magats will celebrate.
