As technology marches on, some people get trapped using decades-old software and devices. Here's a look inside the strange, stubborn world of obsolete Windows machines.
Instead of using old proprietary shit you could use Linux or *BSD with a vintage desktop environment and have a blast
Something I noticed is that basic users (someone using a fucking 30 y/o OS is definitely one) have an easier time with *nix because most “technical” people are overfitted and brainwashed to the Micro$uck ecosystem
Instead of using old proprietary shit you could use Linux or *BSD with a vintage desktop environment and have a blast
I’m not sure you get it.
The CnC operator, for instance, didn’t choose windows; they chose the CnC machine because it’s best at making wood into shapes they need. It came with ‘a computer’ to control it. That computer had a desktop and an icon.
You see how CHOOSING THE OS wasn’t on the list? They chose - and fucking get this - A CNC MACHINE out of a printed catalogue with a 30-word write-up. The number of CnC machines with a Unix or Linux or BSD or BeOS install on them in 2000 was - drumroll please - zero.
If you want to fix that, you’re going to need a time machine. Remember to bring your flag with you.
IBM still manufactures new mainframe computers and they will actually support your ancient mainframe from 1962 (assuming you’re still paying your licensing haha)
the vast majority of Windows 7 and older computers that are still in production are attached to specialized hardware or industrial equipment. Stuff that costs many hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.
emulating older OSes doesn’t really solve the problem at all because the actual concern is security, not hardware issues.
emulation isn’t perfect, especially with passthrough. Especially when you’re trying to pass through an ancient connector through a virtual adapter (show me a modern computer with SCSI)
I could keep going but that’s all I have enough care to do right now
Instead of using old proprietary shit you could use Linux or *BSD with a vintage desktop environment and have a blast
Something I noticed is that basic users (someone using a fucking 30 y/o OS is definitely one) have an easier time with *nix because most “technical” people are overfitted and brainwashed to the Micro$uck ecosystem
I’m not sure you get it.
The CnC operator, for instance, didn’t choose windows; they chose the CnC machine because it’s best at making wood into shapes they need. It came with ‘a computer’ to control it. That computer had a desktop and an icon.
You see how CHOOSING THE OS wasn’t on the list? They chose - and fucking get this - A CNC MACHINE out of a printed catalogue with a 30-word write-up. The number of CnC machines with a Unix or Linux or BSD or BeOS install on them in 2000 was - drumroll please - zero.
If you want to fix that, you’re going to need a time machine. Remember to bring your flag with you.
Go learn about ReactOS, too.
Dude, you clearly have no idea about proprietary and specialised hardware. Which is fine, but you’re choosing to attack people from your ignorance.
Don’t do that
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IBM still manufactures new mainframe computers and they will actually support your ancient mainframe from 1962 (assuming you’re still paying your licensing haha)
the vast majority of Windows 7 and older computers that are still in production are attached to specialized hardware or industrial equipment. Stuff that costs many hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.
emulating older OSes doesn’t really solve the problem at all because the actual concern is security, not hardware issues.
emulation isn’t perfect, especially with passthrough. Especially when you’re trying to pass through an ancient connector through a virtual adapter (show me a modern computer with SCSI)
I could keep going but that’s all I have enough care to do right now
Industrial emulation is easy to do, a sandboxed and controlled VM won’t die from hardware faults like a hunk of shit from 1993
Also there are NEW computers made specifically for this particular purpose, they even have ISA buses and shit
I don’t understand why lemmy is living in la la land, the moment you go against the narrative you’re brigaded to shit
Yes, y’all do be in fact wrong
Bonus: IBM sells emulation packages for migration to new architectures. IBM probably knows better than the lot of us.
If a system is extremely old you can use Alpine Linux with no desktop environment