If you think this started with Silicon Valley that’s a mistake

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      The left begins at socialism.

      If you’re talking about the political spectrum I would think the extreme far left would begin at anarchism and eventually graduate to socialism as you move farther right.

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        Anarchism and Marxism are generally not any more or less “left.” When I say the left begins at socialism, I mean to be considered left wing, you must be at least socialist.

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      What a stupid fucking thing to say. Socialism changes with nationality if you were half as capable as you delude yourself into thinking you are, the difference would be your catalyst.

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        No he’s right. There are no politicians with any real power in North America who are anywhere close to left. Dems are right and Reps are fascist. It’s right and super-right in the US. Canada isn’t doing any better.

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            As I explained to you elsewhere:

            The only reason dicksucking is usable as a pejorative is to draw on historic sexism and homophobia, and telling someone to suck your dick draws on that social trauma. Telling someone to give you a haircut, for example, is still a service but doesn’t have that social trauma to make it a pejorative, and thus it doesn’t hit like one.

            It’s basically drawing on SA to be used as an insult. If you don’t think telling someone to suck your dick is drawing on historic bigotry towards groups that traditionally do that, then I’d like to know why you think it works as an insult.

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              Your false equivalence as an argument? You only got away with that because I was banned from replying. High thanks for bringing it up tho because I am pretty sure it stems from your own homophobia and I suspect we can get to the bottom of it.

              I can accept the misogynist aspect of such a statement but i refuse the homophobic aspect of sucking dick, I recognize your experience with SA and BJ’s. Are you giving me permission to proceed because I don’t want to be a cunt uninvited.

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                I don’t have personal experience with SA, nor am I homophobic. I’m pansexual myself. It isn’t at all a false equivalence to say that there’s a real difference in insult between telling someone to give you a haircut and telling someone to suck your dick. They are both services, but the latter draws stigma from historical sexism and homophobia. Using dicksucking as an insult affirms that history of bigotry, when in reality we should be fighting the negative stigma surrounding sexuality from women and gay men.

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                  Bud I am not going to read further then you denying SA. I am truly sorry that happened to you but I will not partake in your internet ego, not like this.

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                    I don’t think it’s a good idea to mock SA. There’s no ego involved, I haven’t been a victim of SA, and it’s incredibly rude to those who have been victims to treat it like an insult to be flung at people you don’t like.

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              Too much time has passed if you come at me with something remotely intelligible Imabenoid how could I ever respond!? Tomorrow you rotted fuck, ferment on it.

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              So the reason you aren’t as accepted as you think you need to be is because you have a particular brand of socialism. To the west socialism is healthcare it is police accountability it is political fairness. None of these things apply to your concept of socialism because socialism is not an ideology it is, say it with me, social… pee my pants. no wait i mean ism in my pants. You can apply your brand but I will be here to fuck that brand in the face because you are the enemy of society by associating social…ism community…ism with dictator…ism.

              You never claimed to assert freedom for society, community but you do think dictating is part of your cause. Because it is but you aren’t socialist at best you are marxist a fucking brand. A fucking brand give me face value capitalism you dumb cunt.

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                So it sounds like you’re trying to say what people think socialism is changes from place to place. That’s generally true for most political concepts, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an actual consistent and correct definition. Even in the west, the idea that socialism is just social programs isn’t an absolute, people are quite capable of understanding that it’s when public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working class is control.

                As for me, I am a Marxist-Leninist, sure. I don’t see what you mean by saying I’m “not a socialist, at best I’m a Marxist.” Marxism is historically the most significant branch of socialism, alongside anarchism, I don’t see how Marxism could be considered not socialist. I also don’t “defend dictators.”

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                  Yep you confirmed my assertion with no rebuttable maybe a tingle but where is your acknowledgement of saying dumb shit in the first place?

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                    I didn’t confirm your assertion. I acknowledged that people are often mistaken, and this varies by location, and responded with the correct definition as has been most consistent historically and currently. Liberals believing socialism to merely be social programs isn’t a “western” thing, it’s a lack of education on what socialism actually is.

                    And no, I never said “dumb shit,” so there’s nothing to admit to there.

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        .world How does this keep happening? Do they require proof of recent brain injuries to let people register on that instance, or do they just only advertise on 4chan and Reddit?

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          I agree with the sentiment, but I’d tone down the ableism.

          Lemmy.world is trying to replicate Reddit, though, in culture. It took off during the API thing, rather than a subreddit banning like r/TheDeprogram or r/Chapotraphouse, r/GenZedong, etc.