Sorry I typed a lot, so I get if you don’t want to read my whole post lol.
I recognize the irony of asking this on a super online forum, but with the introduction of Sora AI and the AI getting harder and harder to detect, I’m getting to the place where I’m personally think I need to start fortify my mind and start to unplug from big tech and the internet more.
I’m starting to build my own NAS to self host media that I curate. For me, my digital plan to ward off the brain rot is easy: RSS feeds, email newsletters, and self-hosting and getting off big social media platforms (YouTube is gonna be hard , ngl; I legit have a YT addiction…)
But for the IRL offline piece, I don’t even know where to start. I spent the vast majority of my life by myself on computers (entering my mid-20s). Because I have neglected building social relationships, I’m so socially inept, lol. I’m starting from zero. Like, I know for older folks and more offline zoomers, this might sound dumb asking, but if you are more comfortable being by yourself alone on a screen, dealing with the real world and ppl unpredictability is hard knowing where to start.
I’m out of college, and grad school is too expensive, lol. It’s crazy to think just 20 years ago ppl lives were completely different. And with the direction the internet is going, it just getting filled with bots, slop, and ragebait, I recognize I need to better use my time on earth, but it’s hard when most of my life I’ve spent online in front of screens. Like, I’m kind of a bit agoraphobic,(not completely; I go to office when required, though), and WFH and all the internet conveniences make staying indoors so easy and attractive (amazon, walmart, streaming, porn). I was listening to my favorite podcast and they said “We need to make real life more enticing than the internet.” And that really stuck with me.
Our brains have been hijacked by big tech to keep our eyeballs on their platforms for profit. and with the AI stuff, the level of fakeness I cannot personally tolerate, and I dunno if the combo of just me getting older and becoming dissatisfied with my life and all that is causing me to seek advice from strangers on the internet to help inform some changes lol.
Quite late reply, but maybe something helpful for you.
Try to discover a new Hobby, Sport. Join a lobrary, take a physical book and read it outside.
I highly can recommend voluntary work, good to meet new people and doing something good gives you a good feeling.
I made a hard cut and got rid of all social media, really reduced reading the news as everything feels very toxic online atm.
It’s a long journey tbh. It helped for me to make a list of websites I used on a daily basis and just try to eliminate using one every month or so.
I still struggle with Youtube but using Freetube has really helped me not binge or watch too often but the app isn’t working rn :/
Honestly a lot of really is putting your phone/computer/whatever away and going outside. A big part of divorcing yourself from screens and tech is figuring out how to fill the gaps of time without them. And it really just boils down to discipline and practice.
There’s a church in my neighborhood at the top of a decent sized hill. I’m not a churchgoer but it’s a beautiful building. So I try to take a picture of it every day with my phone. That requires me to get out of the house during the daytime and get some exercise trudging up the hill once a day. It helps.
If it’s moderately near the same spot and time or exposure, you could try a timelapse compilation.
Get involved in a hobby that has a welcoming community: photography, book clubs, cooking classes, running clubs, maker spaces, etc. If you really believe you have agoraphobia, consider speaking with a therapist (most work over video chat).
Social skills are like any other skill; they can be learned. I’d suggest volunteering. It’s usually okay if you’re a bit weird and awkward so long as you’re contributing. I’ve done a fair bit of volunteer work and been on both sides of that. Plus it gives you a common goal and instant common ground with people; there’s at least one thing you call care enough about to do it for free.
Poor social skills/social circle: It’s never too late to start working to fix that.
YouTube addiction: I love YouTube…but I only watch through NewPipe and only my subscribed channels which are all long form content of substance. You don’t have to ditch YouTube, you can just use the good bits. Never look at algorithm recommendations (main page or suggested videos).
Offline life: pick something new you like. I’ve been building things (DIY, handmade mechanical keyboard, woodworking). If you find something you like then you can find a club or group and that makes you socialise too. Some people join hiking groups, or weekend park run. Or even if you’re starting solo, you can walk through a city and practice photography (this can be on your phone, don’t need any fancy equipment). There are literally a near infinite number of cheap/free options to consider, the difficult part is deciding what’s of interest to you and finding ways to male it happen.
Those are some good hobby ideas! I’m going to get back into drawing and doing urban sketching to get out of the house more and join some local urban sketcher meet ups.
Can’t help you with the relationships, but I can help you with long posts and online stuff. Yes, I know, the irony is getting real thick here… LOL
Wall of text
When a complex idea manifests as a wall of text, dump the early draft to an LLM, and tell it to squeeze it into a tighter package. Tell it to delete the unnecessary ramblings and repetitions while keeping the core message intact. Before LLMs, I had to manually tidy up my posts and long comments, but nowadays LLMs can handle that sort of stuff for you.
BTW I totally agree that screens tend to be too interesting to humans, so here are a few ideas to help with that.
Be intentional
Make a habit of making your interactions with digital technology more intentional.
This philosophy applies to mobile apps too. Instead of starting an app by tapping an icon on the home screen, use the search feature on your phone to type the name of the app and launch it that way. Muscle memory tends to lead to starting apps even when you don’t really intend to, but using the search as a means to starting apps adds a layer of friction between you and wasting your time on brainrot. This method works best when your home screen doesn’t have any interesting apps to distract you. Put only boring apps in there or make it entirely empty if you want to go full detox. Having a really nice wallpaper helps with that.
Watch videos on your computer, not your phone or tablet. Uninstall the YT app from everything, and use it on a browser instead. This adds a little more friction, making it harder to mindlessly watch videos. When you do watch them, it’s deliberate instead of accidental.
Limit exposure
Limit your online exposure by using whitelists instead of blacklists. On YouTube, you can do this by ignoring main feed and sticking to your subscriptions. BTW, the PocketTube browser extension makes this even nicer, but is it useful to make the experience that nice though? If not, disable uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and PocketTube to speed up the detox process. You’ll end up hating YT so much that watching paint dry will become surprisingly appealing. Maybe that’s a bit hard-core… Better start with smaller steps and try full detox later.
Anyway, the same approach works for Lemmy too. Subscribe to the stuff you really care about, and ignore the rest. This way, you’ll be exposed to less Internet overall, and the part you do see is more likely to be worth your time. As a result, you’ll run out of top-tier material rather quickly, and the internet becomes boring to you. As soon as you get bored, take your eyes off the screen. Look out the window. Take a deep breath. Let your mind wander, and you might suddenly remember you still need to take out the trash (or whatever task you’ve been putting off).
Edit: I wasn’t happy with the initial version, so I let an LLM suggest minor tweaks. Only some of them were included.
For youtube, start by uninstalling the app and watching youtube only in the browser (on the phone too) with the plugin Unhook that removes recommendations and shorts
Read more.
Eg. How to Build a New Habit: This is Your Strategy Guide https://jamesclear.com/habit-guide
- Start with an incredibly small habit.
- Increase your habit in very small ways.
- As you build up, break habits into chunks.
- When you slip, get back on track quickly.
- Be patient. Stick to a pace you can sustain.
And try to combine it with a daily recurrent activity Eg Every morning I turn on my computer (recurrent activity) Goal: (just random goal) i want to be able to run 5km So for the first 6 months i put on running shoes when i turn on my computer (maybe you have your complete running outfit on after 6 months, but if it takes 6 months for your shoes only then so be it)
Ow and it is hard and it takes time!
You need a mental goal and write it down. Visualize your end goal. Make it SMART. Prepare and work out what if scenarios. And get help like a personal trainer, coach or a group so you can share your struggle and your success!
Good luck, you got this! Aim for the moon but baby steps
Stop using anything with algorithmic feeds for a start. So no Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, TikTok, etc etc.
For YouTube - turn off watch history in your account settings. It turns off the home page. Bookmark the subscriptions page and use that and only that so you’re only watching channels you’re subscribed to. I also use ublock to turn off the comments and the suggested bar on the side. I’ve never used the app and I don’t watch videos on my phone.
You can also set an app timer for your Lemmy client, I’ve done it for Jerboa in the past and while it didn’t really work for me, it’s something that may work for you.
With local media that’s a really good idea you got going.
You do need to replace the stuff rather than leave a vacuum, so this would be a good time to pick up a new hobby or get back to an old one, something nice, chill and fairly passive so you don’t feel you’re too exhausted to do it after work, in the same way you’d scroll sm passively.
I may not agree on the whole divorcing from screens thing as IRL really is just a different type of brainrot IMO and an even more biased self selecting echochamber, but I do think divorcing from big tech is a good thing and regardless I wish you luck!
I never really considered that IRL is just as brianrot as online! And in some ways it makes sense! Like people spend alot of their time online as is, so I’m not surprised that people’s behaviors today are at a minimum influenced by online media and such. It’s a vicious collective action problem! I dunno how to change the sisuation but I’m going to be doing more hobbies and things not on a screen, that’s for sure, lol!
Add more friction between you and the social media. On a computer, this can be done by adding lines to your
/etc/hosts, orC:/Windows/System32/drivers/etc/hostsfiles, completely blocking off specific sites. On a phone, add stupid long passwords to open certain apps, don’t accept biometrics, leave the password written down on a paper and hide it - resist the urge to save the password somewhere for easy copypaste or to uninstall the app that allows the password locking.Other than that, leave your phone at home and try walking around the nearest park or any spot that has more than 10 trees, at least once a week. Touch grass, trees, flowers, leaves, sit down and just watch.
Another important thing to keep in mind while outside: people will forget your existence in 5-10 seconds
Is there any way to do that kind of blocking when using a VPN?
Hosts file probably still works?
If not you can filter a whole domain with a UBlock Origin filter.
Cool. I use my mullvad and use their DNS. Thanks for the idea on the UBlock filter!
What I did was buy a phone-sized e-reader (Bigme Hibreak Color), and use that in combination with some focus mode app blockers to switch my habits during the day from doomscrolling to reading ebooks. I get through so many more books now than I used to and it’s wonderful.
That’s a good idea! I have an old Kubo that I neglected for far to long!
Make sure you have a library card and an account in Libby/Overdrive. Ebooks galore.
For someone who spends a lot of time alone and on a computer this will seem anathema, but go find some sort of physical activity (sport) and start engaging in it a few times a week. Not only does this get you out of the house, it creates opportunities to engage with people socially and it is good for your health.
I am very much a stay at home, be in front of my computer type hermit. I was this way most of my life and even being married didn’t help much as my wife is the same. A good Friday night for us currently involves playing Baldur’s Gate 3 until much too late. We have a very small circle of friends and don’t get out much at all. However, now in my late 40’s I am having some health issues and that finally gave me the push to get out of my gaming chair and get my body moving. I took up climbing at an indoor rock climbing gym and I really enjoy it. The regularly changing routes on the walls mean that I get to engage the puzzle solving part of my brain, and I am pushed physically as I try to get better. In between climbs I’m near other people with an obvious shared interest and can practice talking to other people by discussing the routes (social skills are like all skills, they take practice). And the exercise has made my doctor visits a lot less “you’re going to die horribly” and more “we’ve got things pretty well controlled”. I also just feel better.
So ya, go out and find some sort of physical activity you enjoy. Don’t be afraid to try new things, you’ll suck at them but that’s to be expected. The first step in being good at anything is sucking at it. Use that suckage to engage with other people and learn how to suck less. This will help you suck less at socializing. I won’t say that any of this is easy, it’s not. I know there is the hermit piece if me which always wants to fall back into just hiding out in my basement (literally, my office is in my basement). But, I’ve also made a habit of climbing 2-3 times a week and 3 years into doing that I am now looking forward to that time. I get excited when I walk into the gym and see one of the walls changed and now get to solve a new set of climbing routes. I still kinda suck, but not anywhere near as much as I did on my first day.
I’m going to look into fun physical activities to do! I do go rock climbing with my brothers but truthfully It’s not my favorite thing to do. But I’m going to keep exploring things.
For me it is, wearing myself down. It is about the only thing I feel that I can achieve peace from being online. I’ve been online for a long, long time. You just suddenly become so tired, so worn, so repetitive and so beside yourself that you do eventually just do it. You don’t plan it, you don’t announce it, you just do because at somepoint, something is going to make you do it before you realize it.
I think it is advisable that you get hobbies that don’t involve a computer or the internet. Like go thrifting, just find something that piques your interest and that you want to pursue it. It is like entering a store full of hobbies to choose from and the entry fee is cheap by whatever you pick up and want to learn more about or get into about.








