Any game involving Africans has to be woke, according to them and the devs have been fighting a barrage of trolling and obvious racism since the game was put up on steam.

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    2 months ago

    The Steam forums are the most repugnant and racist-filled psychotic right-wing shitholes I’ve ever encountered (and I once went to the Stormfront forums). Genuinely, Steam forums exhibit the most pure and concentrated anti-woke, “every single thought in my head was placed there by Ben Shapiro”, “blacks are the real racists”, x-phobic bigoted brain cancer on earth. I block them where I find them, report the ones that seem actionable, but it’s like trying to hold off a tidal wave with a tennis racket.

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      I think it depends on the game creators presence in the forums. I’ve been in some good steam forums that the game creators actually moderate and ban people/delete posts like the stuff on this games forum.

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      I stopped using them a long time ago. Since they don’t seem interested in moderating their own forums in the slightest, Valve should really shut them all down. The Steam forums are such cesspits of hate speech, bigotry, and toxicity that I actually feel dirty every time I buy a game on Steam. That is not okay.

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      The Steam forums are the most repugnant and racist-filled psychotic right-wing shitholes I’ve ever encountered

      “Surely this person is sheltered”

      (and I once went to the Stormfront forums)

      buddy idk what you’re doing on steam but the worst I get are youtube tier, which can sometimes be Stormfront tier but not higher than that on average.

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        You don’t understand “gatekeepers”, who want to “go back to the good old days when games were a niche, made for gamers, and no corporate bullshit” (translation: “I want to turn gaming spaces a frat club for my kind”).

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      Nowadays the main thought leader of right wing weirdos are Assmongold, they’ve left old Benny boy in the dust because he’s too nerdy for their liking.

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    Guys we should all buy it and play it to show there is no place for hatred. We should propulse the game on the chart of the must play on the simple premise it s bold to denounce colonialism and the inherent evil of thoses white chuds. To your wallet lads

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      The game seems interesting and I like the visuals, unfortunately I’m not a fun of runners (I’m really bad at them).

      I’ll try the demo.

      At the moment I wishlisted it

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        U have no obligation whatsoever. I was only making fun of ppl that buy a product to make a statement rather to enjoy said product.

        Dont forget only broke looser dont have the last iphone that does only everything the one that came before did

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      Looks genuinely fun but omfg 2d platformer with 1060 and 12gb ram as low specs? Five years from now I wouldn’t be able to play a modern three-in-a-row browser game it seems.

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        2D in gameplay, but it’s a 3D game. Also, the 1060 is almost 10 years old. But most importantly, it’s still a WIP. Optimisation for lower end PCs will probably happen last.

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          But most importantly, it’s still a WIP.

          To make it clear, I’m not barking at that dev, but at the industry that gets pushed further and further in reqs without any visible upsides.

          Optimisation for lower end PCs will probably happen last.

          10xx is still not a lower-end PC. Most modern PCs in the world don’t have discrete graphics card and instead use integrated Intel/AMD solutions. Buying a PC or a laptop with a discrete one is 30% addition to an already bloated price tag, so unless you know you need one you can skip it. And, unsurprisingly so, 10xx show themselves still capable, although lacking raytracing stuff.

          2D in gameplay, but it’s a 3D game

          No, it isn’t. The gameplay is tied to two dimensions and it lets devs leave out everything but a thin line of scenery that serves the 2d perspective.

          1060 is almost 10 years old

          And Sunset Overdrive is 11 yo, yep, and it’s a full 3d game with similar gfxs where you can actually navigate these three dimensions hopping through it’s map. Most of the game happens from a zoomed out pov, so there’s probably even less need for computational power and caching if they downsized textures for these scenes acorrdingly.

          There is still no reason to exceed these demands, unless you go all into raytracing, VR or 4k high fps range. The most probable blunders are UE5 and lack of optimization. For a game that doesn’t call itself as a groundbreaking AAA expirience, these reqs feel misplaced.

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            10xx is still not a lower-end PC

            1060 is certainly low end, which is the card you mentioned. 1080 (ti) might still be considered higher end, but the 1060 has been called low end years ago.

            No, it isn’t. The gameplay is tied to two dimensions and it lets devs leave out everything but a thin line of scenery that serves the 2d perspective.

            What? That doesn’t make the models of the character and scenery any less 3D. Are we looking at the same game?

            And Sunset Overdrive is 11 yo, yep, and it’s a full 3d game with similar gfxs where you can actually navigate these three dimensions hopping through it’s map.

            I don’t get what you’re trying to say. Yes, an 11 year old game performs fine on 10 year old hardware. What does this have to do with an unreleased, unoptimised, modern game?

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              1060 is certainly low end, which is the card you mentioned. 1080 (ti) might still be considered higher end, but the 1060 has been called low end years ago.

              Nvidia had a lot of cards this generation, and 1060 in 6gb variant is not as bad as you think. It’s two generations behind, because 20xx were sometimes even worse, and 50xx-40xx changes weren’t that significant as 10xx-30xx were. 10xxs won’t produce top gfxs in the recent games, but most time it’s not them being outdated, but devs fucking it up. And you casually ignored that most PCs have something like an Intel Integrates 13100 instead that barely rebders Dota.

              What? That doesn’t make the models of the character and scenery any less 3D. Are we looking at the same game?

              I suggest you to watch one video on original Resident Evil and how it was designed. Devs managed to do hd gfxs because they could prerender some bits, and others only existed in a POV of the player. With most of the gameplay focused on one side-scrolling perspectieve, devs limited things they need to render (like the world behind you doesn’t exist), and could’ve cut the resources required. I don’t know if they did so, but 12gb ram and 1060 are still ubreasonable.

              don’t get what you’re trying to say. Yes, an 11 year old game performs fine on 10 year old hardware. What does this have to do with an unreleased, unoptimised, modern game?

              Skipping over beta condition this game is in, I want this game to provide anything of value for resources consumed. I proposed an old game that does all of that in 3d, and I’m wondering why a 2d game can’t do the same.

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                Again, it’s not a 2D game. The gameplay moves in 2D, but it’s rendered in 3D. Technically we call this 2.5D.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D

                So the whole premise you’re basing this on is false. And don’t compare a 30y old PS1 game to modern gaming lol. I get you’re nostalgic but the industry has changed.

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                Much more relevant are the last two numbers in nvidia classification. A 2060 is miles behind a 1080. The first 2 numbers just represent the generation, not how “strong” it is. 1060 was always an entry level gpu, and is outclassed by even modern integrated graphics. Not to say hardware requirements aren’t insane recently, but that’s partly due to un-optimized engine requirements that take an insane amount of work to tune, which just isn’t realistic for an indie/less experienced team. As well as wild timeline expectations from investors/publishers to release products way before they’re ready so they can make money, leaving little time to polish.

                Source: game developer in AA listening to how shit I am for not making game go faster.

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        My single 996 MEGAhertz processor, 512mb ram, 128mb vram setup could just about run Battlefield 2, Counter Strike Source, and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. These games often had higher minimum requirements but I managed.

        Balatro, a modern card game, starts off with minimum requirements of two 3 GIGAhertz cores and a gigabyte of ram.

        Comparing AAA Valve with an indie dev isn’t fair but it’s objectively true that relatively simple concepts now require substantially more resources. That’s like several Battlefield 1942 instances to 1 Balatro instance.

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    I was about to move on until I read someone asking if this was a Bit Trip Runner clone. NOW you have my attention

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    Ah yes, the “My ancestors rightfully stole this land and your existence is oppression, kefir!” crowd. We meet again.

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    On the plus side, I keep forgetting that this game exists and they keep reminding me, so… yay, free marketing?

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    Yeah, reading Steam discussions ruined my day. Just full of racism under the vale of wokeness… Those fuckin’ “Is this game woke?” threads we see everywhere these days might as well be “Does this game have any non-white male characters?”

    They are worst that the stupid asses calling for characters to have a gender option in games with a story. I mean, anyone here didn’t enjoy Die Hard because they could not relate to John’s gender or sexuality during all those fun action scenes?

    Now, on a totally unrelated topic:

    Looking to buy this game, but I wanna know before giving them any money; do the devs prefer a penis or clit in their mouth?

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      It is so fucking stupid, because games would be so insanely boring if every character interaction was between straight, white, cis-het men, and no female character could ever pass the Bechdal Test.

      Just like with movies and TV shows, I enjoy a variety of games that cover the entirety of the human experience. Why the fuck would I want to limit that??

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        yea but these gamers aren’t thinking about you, or about the quality of art

        because this is what they want, they want the ethnostate in fiction just like they want it irl. they are white supremacists first and foremost

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      It’s hilarious! In the “is the game woke” thread, someone literally wrote:

      To make analogy. In your world/culture its okay for China to steal all our furniture, devices in all western homes if the product is “made in China”. It once belonged to China and could have been stolen…

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        Holy shit! That might be the dumbest arguement I’ve ever heard. I might have heard worse, but nothing is coming to mind.

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      Fuck it. Moderator action.

      Before the poster makes any other posts, they must answer the prompt: “Apologies! We’ve been dealing with an influx of hate speech and bigotry, so to clarify your concerns, could you please provide the intended meaning of the word “Woke” in this post?”

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    I feel really bad for the devs. Just trying to make a game and they get bombarded with harassment, racist bait, trolling, etc.

    Is there anything to be done about this?

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    This game looks awesome!

    I should not have clicked on Discussions.

    It’s really gotten to the point where there’s no dogwhistly way to say what they’re saying. They’re just being blatant psychotic racists.

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    Plenty of racism in those forums playing out the “black on black” crime trope except it’s African on African crime, their fault for the slave trade, etc.