Real talk - if the applicant can’t be assed to fill out a form or write a cover letter then maybe they aren’t a good fit. Paperwork that people hate to do is critically important for many jobs.
Insane mental gymnastics on display here. “Let us waste your time doing nothing of value or meaning to prove how you’ll behave when given a task of value and meaning” is linkedinlunatics material.
Let us waste your time doing nothing of value or meaning to prove how you’ll behave when given a task of value and meaning” is linkedinlunatics material.
I’ve had many. None of them did this to me. If they wanted to see what I could do they would put me in a real but low stakes situation with supervision and see how I performed. You’ve become accustomed to the inexcusable to the point where you’re making excuses on its behalf. I pity you.
The form are important because 90% of the applicants for a job these days aren’t remotely qualified because people shotgun resumes at a hundred jobs at once without even reading the qualifications and all their resumes are formatted differently.
I don’t have the time to go through that, so yeah - I filter out people who don’t bother to fill in the fields because they probably didn’t even read what the job is.
The fields get the resume to my desk. The resume and cover letter get you an interview, and the interview gets the job offer.
I hear about all these people sending out hundreds of job applications in every direction with no response, and it makes sense. When you’re competing against a hundred people for a job, you won’t stand out with a half-ass application. Focus on doing fewer, higher-quality applications.
The fields let me filter out whether someone meets the bare minimum at a glance in a standard format. If someone gets through that, I’ll read the resume, CV, and cover letter they prepared. If they get through that, they get an interview. If they get through that I’ll check references and make an offer.
Larger organizations take it a step further and have a computer auto-filter candidates based on the fields.
Who in Burger King spends all their days filling out the exact same data all the time? Most people I see at Burger King are making food.
I was replying to the person saying that it’s important that people show they can fill out forms with precision and I’m saying that filling out the same exact data into a bunch of forms isn’t what anyone does at their job because if it was, that position should be automated away anyway.
I get hundreds of half-ass applications for jobs. But the 10% that actually fill out the application and meet the minimum qualifications almost always get an interview.
Real talk - if the applicant can’t be assed to fill out a form or write a cover letter then maybe they aren’t a good fit. Paperwork that people hate to do is critically important for many jobs.
Insane mental gymnastics on display here. “Let us waste your time doing nothing of value or meaning to prove how you’ll behave when given a task of value and meaning” is linkedinlunatics material.
You’ve never had a job have you ?
I’ve had many. None of them did this to me. If they wanted to see what I could do they would put me in a real but low stakes situation with supervision and see how I performed. You’ve become accustomed to the inexcusable to the point where you’re making excuses on its behalf. I pity you.
The form are important because 90% of the applicants for a job these days aren’t remotely qualified because people shotgun resumes at a hundred jobs at once without even reading the qualifications and all their resumes are formatted differently.
I don’t have the time to go through that, so yeah - I filter out people who don’t bother to fill in the fields because they probably didn’t even read what the job is.
The fields get the resume to my desk. The resume and cover letter get you an interview, and the interview gets the job offer.
I hear about all these people sending out hundreds of job applications in every direction with no response, and it makes sense. When you’re competing against a hundred people for a job, you won’t stand out with a half-ass application. Focus on doing fewer, higher-quality applications.
LLMs have made that kind of thing moot for LLM users. Honest ones, not so much.
You learn to spot LLM cover letters pretty quickly. And anybody who slips by won’t survive an interview.
I’d love to see someone try and perform in an interview with ChatGPT or Claude without me noticing from the other side of the table.
With no real way to verify, you’re just guessing. Educated guessing sure, but unverifiable guesses.
The paid models are quite good at writing English in a realistic way. They do have a shitton of training data and the models ate HUGE.
They still suck at doing lots of things, like writing code and listening to me. Same as frer LLMs
why would anyone bother to write something you tacitly admit you arent going to read
The fields let me filter out whether someone meets the bare minimum at a glance in a standard format. If someone gets through that, I’ll read the resume, CV, and cover letter they prepared. If they get through that, they get an interview. If they get through that I’ll check references and make an offer.
Larger organizations take it a step further and have a computer auto-filter candidates based on the fields.
Oh hey, here’s one now!
I’m happy to do mundane paperwork IF I’m getting paid to do it.
Everyone should beg for meaningless, repetitive work… And they should be grateful for it.
Okay but do you want to do that hundreds or thousands of times?
Like, 8 hours a day, at a desk, for money, over the course of an entire career…? Yeah, that’s why I’m filling out this application.
If you’re filling out the exact same data into forms for 8 hours a day for 50 years, maybe automate it?
now we’re at the victim blaming stage where we expect people to utilize 100k a year job skills just to fill out applications for burger king.
Who in Burger King spends all their days filling out the exact same data all the time? Most people I see at Burger King are making food.
I was replying to the person saying that it’s important that people show they can fill out forms with precision and I’m saying that filling out the same exact data into a bunch of forms isn’t what anyone does at their job because if it was, that position should be automated away anyway.
Then they fire me, keep the software, and make someone else do 2 jobs. ☹️
I get hundreds of half-ass applications for jobs. But the 10% that actually fill out the application and meet the minimum qualifications almost always get an interview.
Real talk - it’s a complete waste of time and a product of corporate complacency
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