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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 day ago

California drivers sue gas stations for allegedly using AI to inflate prices

www.theguardian.com

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California drivers sue gas stations for allegedly using AI to inflate prices

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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 day ago
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Firms including BP and 7-Eleven accused of coordinating prices to ‘wring more money from pockets of consumers’
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    That’s illegal as well.

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      Sure, but now you can blame the AI. Sorry, not our fault.

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        how does the logic work so it’s not their fault? if they are price fixing they are price fixing, the mechanism doesn’t matter.

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          Yep, if you tell an AI to do something, you are at least partially to blame for whatever it does. They shouldn’t be able to avoid responsibility that easily.

          That’s kind if what Germany told Google. "If you have AI write your search summaries, you are responsible for checking its work and liable for its mistakes.

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            No, you are entirely to blame.

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              SHOULD be entirely to blame. But arnt cause rich people

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        Yeah you’re probably on the money there. AI gives you some sort of plausible deniability?

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          It didn’t work for the RealPage rent price-fixing lawsuit.

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            It kind of did. They got a slap on the wrist and will still do it. It’s the 4th or 5th time they got busted for doing it.

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      It certainly is. They get caught once in a while. The first time it happened was when I added the term “oligopoly” to my vocabulary.

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      Tell that to OPEC.

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      Is it illegal if they don’t collude?

      The but that makes using AI illegal is if they all use a common platform/service.

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        It’s legal if they don’t do any communication between the companies. Then nobody can prove that there is collusion. Using AI, that all use the same way to raise the prices and vibe the prices higher as response to the other AI raising prices is even better. Then it’s not even any human intent.

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          Landlords used a common platform to price fix without communication between the companies and that was ruled illegal, it’s not quite the same but because of the way public LLMs don’t isolate inputs from users, you could argue that if any 2 users input their prices into the same platform they are engaging in collision as the information isn’t public.

          https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-reaches-proposed-settlement-greystar-largest-us-landlord-end-its

          Really we should just ban all algorithmic price setting.

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