• vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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      4 months ago

      Daycare is kind of intense.

      You have a bunch of parents who would rather be with their kids. They’re paying close to their own mortgage/rent to have their kids watched. They’re convinced that the teens/young adults the daycare hires are not doing anything. Their kids are there with a load of other kids, pick up bad habits, get bullied and yelled at by kids in worse home situations. As soon any any scratch or scrape happens they want to know know for those prices.

      The timesheets give them solace that their kid is being watched, fed, changed, and taken care of emotionally.

      it’s not necessary, but it’s not hard to see why it happens

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        4 months ago

        Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.

        Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.

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          It’s an app. Do you actually think they’re manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There’s also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
          You’re caring for someone else’s child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that’s good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?

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            just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes.

            I was referring to the amount of them. 3 in half an hour 😕 For no good reason.

            the law says if you felt the need to do…

            Luckily the law is different where I live. I’d rather have my child taken care of by a human, instead of a flowchart :)

            Do you have a different criteria

            When the caretaker feels like something important happened

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              Oh, I assumed you thought people were spending a lot of time entering timestamps. Do you think this is a particularly onerous process for them, or that the parents need to like, acknowledge each log? They just push a button to select the kid and tap another to select the event. Maybe type a description if it’s an incident report. It’s significantly easier for them than logging it any other way, and it ensures parents get the information on food, diapers and whatnot.

              I am confused how you see this as care by flowchart. Daycare staff aren’t medical professionals. They aren’t qualified to make objective decisions about what’s an “important” event to notify parents of in a consistent manner. What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?

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                What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?

                Belgium. There’s no laws whatsoever that mandate notifications. They’ll just tell you if something important happens

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                  Well that seems quite odd. Most developed countries have standards for childcare settings, including defining minimums for activity and incident logging.
                  Finding regulations was difficult, but it seems that Belgium just has lower quality childcare than even the US, according to the UN. https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childcare

                  Color me surprised. I kind of assumed if we had standards that anyone else would have similar or better standards.

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                    The only thing such laws do is make the care taker more of a replaceable robot, imo. In either case, you want someone that cares, and doesn’t see a kid as a long to do list within an app.

                    No amount of laws can force someone to care. The reverse is often true, in my opinion. “Teach for the test” style.

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      In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.

      • no??? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I’d be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!