• vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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      4 months ago

      Daycare is kind of intense.

      You have a bunch of parents who would rather be with their kids. They’re paying close to their own mortgage/rent to have their kids watched. They’re convinced that the teens/young adults the daycare hires are not doing anything. Their kids are there with a load of other kids, pick up bad habits, get bullied and yelled at by kids in worse home situations. As soon any any scratch or scrape happens they want to know know for those prices.

      The timesheets give them solace that their kid is being watched, fed, changed, and taken care of emotionally.

      it’s not necessary, but it’s not hard to see why it happens

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      In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.

      • no??? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I’d be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!

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        4 months ago

        Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.

        Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.

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          It’s an app. Do you actually think they’re manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There’s also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
          You’re caring for someone else’s child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that’s good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?

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            just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes.

            I was referring to the amount of them. 3 in half an hour 😕 For no good reason.

            the law says if you felt the need to do…

            Luckily the law is different where I live. I’d rather have my child taken care of by a human, instead of a flowchart :)

            Do you have a different criteria

            When the caretaker feels like something important happened

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              Oh, I assumed you thought people were spending a lot of time entering timestamps. Do you think this is a particularly onerous process for them, or that the parents need to like, acknowledge each log? They just push a button to select the kid and tap another to select the event. Maybe type a description if it’s an incident report. It’s significantly easier for them than logging it any other way, and it ensures parents get the information on food, diapers and whatnot.

              I am confused how you see this as care by flowchart. Daycare staff aren’t medical professionals. They aren’t qualified to make objective decisions about what’s an “important” event to notify parents of in a consistent manner. What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?

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                What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?

                Belgium. There’s no laws whatsoever that mandate notifications. They’ll just tell you if something important happens

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      came here to say just this, just seeing a feed of your childs interactions at another space is fucking weird. Why goto this logging level? Isnt it just good enough of, yeah they napped well today, and they hit there head, it scared them but we got them calmed and an ice pack just in case.

      I feel like this is what helicopter parenting but they have to work so this is what they want and they need to calm down, they dont even monitor the indoor air at this level and that has been shown to be a big contributor of poor mental performance then just being at day care with sun and playing with others.

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        Agreed on the diaper change one, but the first half is literally what you said with a timestamp. The nap one is important because if they did or didn’t nap, you can adjust what you do after

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          yeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.

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              And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.

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                so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up

                Talking with parents takes far, far, far longer than logging something on your phone or a tablet. How is this idea not just a significantly worse time-sink?

                That’s not even getting into the fact that things get forgotten throughout the day - you’re absolutely not getting a full report while they’re panicking and dealing with 20 other parents while also keeping the kids still there safe.