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FarraigePlaisteaċ (sé/é)@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

Loops publishes their recommender algorithm

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Loops publishes their recommender algorithm

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FarraigePlaisteaċ (sé/é)@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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Our new For You algorithm is pretty complex, so we created this infographic to make it easier to understand! #Loops #ForYou #TikTok #EthicalAlgorithms
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    15 hours ago

    latest app build showing invalid on my android

  • okamiueru@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    This infographic reeks of AI slop.

    • korendian@lemmy.zip
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      15 hours ago

      “Everything I don’t like is AI”

    • newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml
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      17 hours ago

      What about it?

      • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
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        16 hours ago

        probably because the block under the cpu looking thing doesn’t indicate how it interacts with the cpu looking block and the block that ranking engine feeds into the ranked “for you” feed also there’s two user controls

  • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
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    Yeah after making an algorithm for peertube I’m gonna say this is too complicated to implement. That graphic might be the the plan and it’s something more simplistic.

    Making a simple cosign vector for peertube was a pain

    • newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml
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      17 hours ago

      What’s too complicated exactly? They claim their program does precisely that. I believe you could review the code yourself.

      • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
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        16 hours ago

        oh lord your looking for a fight. i tell you this i kinda already won since your looking my input to criticize, but ill say this the personalized focus block alone. that’s an exact “thing” and if you want more well your gonna have to ask more specific questions and your gonna demand that i help you.

        also I helped loops in the past. I can tell you that the GitHub code isn’t the code that’s used

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  • fubarx@lemmy.world
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    This is outstanding!

    Not being based on “rengagement” or “monetization” means it’s purely interest-based, with a touch of serendipity.

    One of BSKY’s distinctive features was to have “pluggable” algorithms. Fediverse would do well to support it so people who are not into te weeds could choose how their feed is curated.

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    2 days ago

    Cooool

  • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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    2 days ago

    Hoping for something like this for PeerTube and personal customisation of the algorithm.

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    2 days ago

    Can you personalize your own ranking algo that can be shared with friends? That’s the breakthrough we’re all waiting for…

    • ‮redirtSdeR@lemmy.world
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      that’s kinda how bluesky works with the feeds and all

    • Da Oeuf@slrpnk.net
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      That would be extremely groovy. Even just having a few flavours of algorithm that you can choose from would be really cool.

    • FarraigePlaisteaċ (sé/é)@lemmy.worldOP
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      Not that I know of, but you could make a feature request if one doesn’t already exist https://github.com/joinLoops

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    2 days ago

    Loops kind of sucks.

    • harmbugler@piefed.social
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      17 hours ago

      Compared to…?

    • korendian@lemmy.zip
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      1 day ago

      It’s kind of in beta.

    • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      No u

      • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        I mean, tell me I’m wrong. Tell me that there is good content. Tell me it functions well.

        • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
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          It’s literally in its infant stages. You think any of the major social media sites just started out with a bajillion accounts and a neverending feed? I remember signing up for Facebook and Instagram in the very early days. It looked like the fediverse.

        • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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          2 days ago

          You can do something about the content 😊

          • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            I tried. The UI sucks.

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          2 days ago

          I think the stuff i post is pretty neat… Ben Glish is on there now too, that’s cool!

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          It’s still in early stages. Give it time :)

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    2 days ago

    Loops… Algorithm???

    • harmbugler@piefed.social
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      … yes?

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        That is surprising for those who have a long familiarity with Loops. The chronological timeline was a major selling point.

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          17 hours ago

          From https://joinloops.org/

          A calm chronological Following feed for the people you trust — and a For You feed that surfaces new creators from across Loops and compatible ActivityPub servers.

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    2 days ago

    Isn’t loops open source?

    • 4Robato@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Yes

      • Sibbo@sopuli.xyz
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        So then this is just a shorter explanation, and not “publishing” the algorithm? Because before already anyone could read the code and understand how it works, it would have just taken longer.

        • FarraigePlaisteaċ (sé/é)@lemmy.worldOP
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          I suppose that by using the word “publish”, I made it sound like the algorithm had been private until this point. I could probably have chosen a better phrasing like “published breakdown illustration”.

        • OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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          The same way “anyone” could make an HTML5 compliant browser. The reality is you can’t do it unless Google lets you.

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          anyone could read the code and understand how it works

          “Anyone” is doing some heavy lifting here.

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            Sorry for being pedantic since your comment is true anyway, but “could” is the one doing the heavy lifting.

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          Personally, I would not be able to understand this, looking at the code (or any code). I appreciere that they shared a visualization of it. If you’re hun up on the word “publish” instead of “share”, “posts” or “shows”, then I think its redundant

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          Technically, yes the info would be available but not everyone is able to read code so this is a welcome additional bit of info and transparency. I also see it as an example of how future open source social media platforms can promote and demonstrate the way their algorithms work as opposed to the black boxes of proprietary web apps like Instagram etc (which, while not algorithmically transparent or open, have been pretty well established to have algorithms that prioritize maximizing time on platform and engagement over all else with some serious negative repercussions for that).

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    Well. This is good news.

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    I can’t even zoom into the picture on mobile on this website

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      this is from the post, that this post links to

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