• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    The immorality in USA is insane. It’s been a well known fact for more than half a century, that death penalty is against democratic values.
    If you don’t believe that, try to read for instance this piece:
    https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2024/hss/why-the-death-penalty-is-incompatible-with-democracy.html

    Yet USA has persisted with this evil, because USA is a society of violence and evil. Upholding slavery longer than any democracy, still oppressing minorities, denying healthcare to the poor, extreme punishments with for instance 3 times and you’re out, resulting in insanely disproportionate punishment. Having the highest imprisoned population in the world, no matter how you measure it. Having unlivable minimum wage despite being among the richest countries in the world. Refusing to seriously amend weapons regulations despite regular mass/school shootings.

    The list goes on and on, USA is a sociopathic society with no comparison among countries USA is normally compared to.

    How did USA become this crazy? Is it because USA is based on Christian cults, so USA is built on delusions and outright insanity?
    IDK why, but USA for sure is an outlier as a society, and it doesn’t help that it’s based on a seriously flawed democracy.

    I am looking forward to the day where USA isn’t an influence on the rest of the world like it used to be.

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      “Upholding slavery longer than any democracy” is especially true considering it’s still permitted in the United States, their 13th constitutional amendment merely put an extra easy-to-satisfy condition on it. You merely need to be convicted of a crime to be made a slave.

      What a coincidence, the US has the largest prison population in the world, surpassing even China despite China being an authoritarian country with ~3.5 times the population. And that prison population is disproportionately dark-skinned. Who’d have guessed it.

      I am looking forward to the day where USA isn’t an influence on the rest of the world like it used to be.

      Fortunately they seem to be speed-running that now.

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        However China is worse on specifically this issue. It’s believed they execute way more people but the real number is kept secret. And that may be a factor in the prison population.

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          Why would you compare the US to China -A developing nation, instead of comparing the U.S. to it’s contemporary allies? I imagine Afghanistan and Eritrea also have higher execution rates but I wouldn’t compare them to the U.S. because they aren’t our contemporary, developed allies.

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            Uh first I made the comparison because the above person did.

            Second, these are the to largest economies and two most politically powerful countries. It’s natural to compare them and people do it all the time.

            Third, does being a developing country excuse mass-murder? I don’t think so. Your objection is completely irrelevant and off base in several ways.

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              Uh first I made the comparison because the above person did.

              Second, these are the to largest economies and two most politically powerful countries. It’s natural to compare them and people do it all the time.

              To your first point my post applies to both of you. To your second point, it’s only natural to compare the too largest economic powers in terms of economics. Thirdly, a comparison to China is typically used as a distraction to downplay the importance of eliminating executions which also undermines your third point and my whole reason for posting.

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                I’m opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances. I’m not trying to excuse the USA’s horrendous system of dealing with crime which is among the worst in the world.

                It just so happens that China’s is also among the worst in the world so they naturally get discussed together. The proper response is to condemn both of them but nationalistic morons have a hard time with this.

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        Yes, we may even thank Trump for that at some point, unless of course if the Chinese turn out to be worse, and now we don’t have the needed cooperation between EU, USA and other western democracies to counter China. And that’s a pretty big fucking IF!

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    Fwiw

    • Florida is 40%
    • 27 states allow the death penalty, about half
    • 11 states so far this year have executed someone

    I’m going with this is not a us problem but a red state problem or even Florida man problem