• Señor Mono@feddit.org
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    Yea… as if they don’t enjoy their strategic advantage to have bases and drone relays in all their “befriended” countries. Their global power relies in the ability to project military power in a fast manner.

    Good luck doing that without strategic bases and pre distributed resources and local enablers.

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      This is not about the geostrategic interests of the US. Where do you think these ideas come from?

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        I don’t think they come from where you think, it is just plain stupidity from people thinking that US could go better alone.

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          And just out of plain stupidity they’ve decided to reject the overwhelming consensus of US foreign policy for decades? Colour me sceptical. Where do the stupid people get those ideas from?

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            And just out of plain stupidity they’ve decided to reject the overwhelming consensus of US foreign policy for decades?

            Obviously. They are stupid, they cannot understand, or don’t care about, the consequences of their actions.

            Colour me sceptical. Where do the stupid people get those ideas from?

            These ideas were always there, they think they are special. It is just that this time they elected the worst people possible.

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      Yes time to go home boys. Can you take your shitty nukes too so we’re no longer a target for your stupid war games?

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        Can you take your shitty nukes too so we’re no longer a target for your stupid war games?

        Sorry, but to think Europe will no longer be threatened by nuclear weapons if the US will remove theirs is a bit naïve.

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          Naive, hope. What ever you want to call it. I just don’t want to live in FallOut, sorry.

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            Looking at Ukraine: not having nukes does not guarantee peace, rather the contrary. Meanwhile, there haven’t been that many foreign tanks attacking in those countries that live under the protection of nukes. It’s ok to be hopeful, but let’s also stay realistic.

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              Okay apples and pears aside. Maybe not nukes, but lots of yummy Uranium deposits, only a third less than China has. Then for the rest of the basket, Ukraine and specifically the Donbas is chock full of Lithium. Some of the largest deposits. Reason A doesn’t oppose reason B.

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                The point is: had Ukraine kept its nukes in the 90s instead of giving them away for a security treaty with Russia that Russia decided to just break, it wouldn’t have to defend against the Russian war of aggression right now.

                So while you think of nukes as a threat, keep in mind there’s people in a war right now and not far away that wished they had kept theirs.

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                  That’s not a point at all. Ignoring the facts doesn’t make mutually assured destruction a valid tactic.

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    Time for European army. Or at least Army of willing, which can be done without lengthy treaty change process, or dealing on something smaller by all EU members.

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    This is a Russian op to ensure that when Russia attacks NATO members, the USA won’t be beholden to support the allies and will sit on their hands and watch (along with refusing aid) also they won’t have to send troops

    Plus the US will be allowed to commit war crimes and can limit or stiffle democracy and Civil liberties without having to answer to anyone.

    One of the requirements in NATO is that they must is uphold democracy and tolerate diversity

    The atrocities against American citizens is coming. Likely after the midterm elections next year if the outcome doesn’t go the GOPs way

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      Isn’t that another thing that Putin would have ordered, Krasnov?

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      Only if done slowly like step-by-step over the next 10 years.

      The US provide some capabilities to NATO which the others cannot substitute immediately.

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        When the push comes to shove Trump’s USA will do jack shit to provide anything but insult added to injury.

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        It’s the other way around. The US so depends on its war economy, it will have the hardest time diversifying its economy. War is the only thing the US knows. It’s what birth it, it’s what feeds it and it is what will bring its end.

        Morally the last time the US was part of the good guys, was when everybody but the Germans and Japanese were. Their neofascist technogarchy is fucked. Their USA Empire is already in ruins, but they’re too French about it to realise it. Thinking they’re fighting a proxy with Russia, when Russia already is a proxy of China.

        The US has shown its incompetence by attacking fishing boats in Venezuela as a show of strength. The ridicule is only drowned out by the dumbfounded gasps of disbelief. Our grandchildren will learn Chinese, lol.

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          Our grandchildren will learn Chinese, lol.

          I doubt this will happen to our grand children, or even their grand children. China has a receding population, losing 100m(!!!) between 2025 and 2050 alone and projected to accelerate further.

          I suspect instead it will be a mix of English and the service industry dominating Hindi, or “Indianish” (English spoken with all its Indian quirks?)