Remembering my aunts and uncles from my childhood, a lot of the older people today don’t seem to have as much energy – I come from the US.

I’ve noticed people can be erratic and easily agitated now. Almost everyone I know in their 40s and 50s is angry all the time. Heavy drinking. Not able to process new information very well.

My uncle had a kid at 50 and played with her non-stop. I don’t know anyone capable of that now.

Am I the only one seeing this?

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    It’s the endless doom.

    Whether you’re doomscrolling here or getting your “news” from Facebook and Fox “News”, all we get in our feeds is doom. Doom sells. Different doom for different folks.

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    I mean it’s simple.

    Everyone is worried even if they don’t say so.

    Technology has been shoved down our throats. Now there’s llms; this is referencing something simple like getting bot calls on a daily basis for a pretend “human” to get transferred to “John” with a thick Indian accent.

    It’s hot outside. I remember having to wear a jacket in the winter, and now I want to take my skin off.

    Video games were fun or challenging; now they’re pay to win.

    Playing in the backyard isn’t cool anymore because 'gotta keep up with the other kids on their phones and so forth.

    Depends on where you’re at; anger? High levels of CO2 cause that. The fun factor about global warming that isn’t often discussed. Having parking lots of cars at stop lights makes this worse. It gets worse when stores cut back on AC and filtration.

    The political spectrum is well on a spectrum; so the confidence is gone there.

    All of these aspects exhaust people. Especially advertising on every corner.

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      i find it so crazy how people are conditioned to shove down very real worries to appeal to normality.

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    We’re fucking tired, man. We’re in debt, behind on bills and having to work more than since the depression.

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      I get things are expensive and hard. I just don’t understand the debt. I grew up really poor. Never had anything. Family didn’t have debt though. Now I’m Lower lower middle class. I moved up over my parents. Still struggling. Still no savings at 39. But no debt.

      How do people acquire so much debt? Is it college (I was too poor to consider it because it would be 100% financed through loans, which ain’t happening), credit cards? I’ve never had one. I always thought those were for rich people. Home loans? Medical? Like everyone I know is in debt and I don’t get it.

      Poor, I get. Hunger, I get. Homelessness, I get. I just don’t understand debt.

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        My wife lost her job last year due to illness. Had to take a loan out against one of the cars. My income alone wasn’t enough. Got behind on bills. Shit happens, man.

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    Look at the cars. You used to see a lot of brightly colored cars on the street. Even simple family cars and minivans were red, or bright green, or even purple. Now everything on the road is beige/dull silver.

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      I tried finding a nice color, but the deal I found on my grey vehicle was too good to pass up. So, I’m coving it with stickers instead.

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    Covid gives us brain damage. Brain damage is often subtle. It doesn’t usually manifest as drooling in the corner. For instance, one of the most common signs of brain damage is fatigue.

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    I think all the appeals to preserve “whimsy” in recent years lends credence to your observation.

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    This has been dawning on me as well.

    Aside from all the things people are mentioning, my take on it: culture, at least in the U.S., has stopped. If a person finds something to be excited about, they do so in spite of their government that should otherwise be helping them flourish. We try to find joy in spite of the profound inequitable conditions that are celebrated by the elite. We have to give up a third of our paychecks to fund pointless destruction and slaughter overseas, and lavish lifestyles for our feckless politicians and federally-subsidized billionaires at home.

    What collective identity can we develop under these conditions? We only find an identity defined by anger. Hatred. Resentment. We must constantly experience these feelings in order to remain grounded in reality; they are the only way we can stay in touch with the truth of things.

    I’m sure it’s been articulated better elsewhere, but I’m starting to think that’s a big part of fascism: the death of culture, the destruction of what we could otherwise draw hope from. Fascism says that everything people cherish and find self-actualization in is sinful and aberrant, but offers nothing to replace them except hollow parodies of culture. In the current moment, it’s either Christian white nationalist parodies of culture (just look at literally any creative work they make; they are soulless and hollow) or AI-generated slop culture.

    We’re also living through something pretty unprecedented: corporate technofascism. History has never seen fascism breed with the kind of unchecked capitalist insanity that will come to define this era. There are a thousand digital barriers between you and real life, and you are told you should be happy and excited about such “innovation” when it’s been 10 years since there was anything to be excited about.

    That’s my distilled diatribe on this idea.

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      This is more cultural than political.

      For decades, variety shows were a staple of entertainment.

      Vaudeville featured a dozen or more different acts. TV had Ed Sullivan and later Cher and Carol Burnett doing shows with an array of talent. Top 40 Radio brought Dolly Parton to the city folks and Aretha Franklin to the country folks.

      Now people listen to and watch exactly what they want.

      Joe Blow used to see opera singers on antenna TV, now his grandkids only see it if they decide to look for it, and they usually don’t.

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    While most of the comments are correctly pointing out the late-stage capitalism as the main culprit, I must add something I didn’t see mentioned: COVID-19 pandemic.

    To me, a Zennial, it was the main once-in-a-generation disgrace event. I still clearly remember the days when I began reading about a “mysterious pneumonia-like disease noticed among the patients from an ophthalmologist in Wuhan”, the first cases reported in South Korea, all the way to the outbreak in Italy, then World Health Organization finally declaring it a pandemic in March 11th 2020 (I can’t forget this specific date, either).

    COVID-19 left so many marks. Emotional, as millions died from it; biological, as many who survived lived or are still living with the “Long COVID-19 syndrome”; and also societal, as it fundamentally shaped society as we know it.

    I feel like I was never the same after I first got COVID-19. It’s as if my entire existence became split between “before 2020” and “after 2020”.

    Maybe, just maybe, one of the explanations would be that SARS-CoV-2 is known to affect more than the respiratory system, it can also affect the brain. SARS-CoV-2 or not, the pandemic truly messed up with our brains as a society, I became sort of traumatized by it and so were countless other people, especially from my generation, because we spend a significant part of our adulthood with a world struggling to fight a virus. It was also the first time we experienced the concept of quarantine/lockdown (I was already an introvert person who’s accustomed with staying indoors, but the pandemic messed up with my graduation because I couldn’t elaborate my thesis, let alone present it, until I ended up giving up of a bachelor degree).

    So, if I were to guess, the disgraces that followed up to nowadays, including the late-stage capitalism, seem to be heavily tied to that pandemic six years ago (which I remember as if it were yesterday).

    !asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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    This is really obvious to me, but this is what happens to society when conservatives are actually in power.

    There will always be people who try to be merry in hard times, but it actually crushes people everywhere.

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    No, you are not wrong. The USA is being punished for her crimes. Capitalism is failing, Democracy is rearing its ugly side, traditional values are proving empty, religion is falling flat, race has its ugly side displayed for all to see, patriots cant relate to their national identity anymore. The USA is cannibalising itself. This makes it to where people are losing their future, desperately trying to keep what is familiar, and overall reaching a state of hopelessness/powerlessness.

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      Just moved from Seattle to Vancouver, BC and I can absolutely say this is correct. People are more relaxed here, friendlier, there’s more resources, less stress… People in Canada aren’t constantly in fight or flight mode like we are in the US.

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          They also didn’t mention bike lanes, so it’s probably safe to assume they either (a) don’t exist where they live or (b) there are bike lanes but the cyclists are assholes who refuse to use them

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            Do the bike lanes you mention happen to be little painted bikes on the other side of the white line next to the road with no actual protection from the giant trucks inches away? Cause those aren’t bike lanes, and cyclists not riding there doesn’t make them assholes.

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              This. I’m not a cyclist but I am someone who walks frequently. People can’t even wait to take a right turn while you’re crossing the street at a stop light, they’ll inch right up next to me to the point I can feel the heat from their radiator. If people are that inconsiderate to me at a fucking crosswalk, I don’t trust them not to plow through a cyclist in a bike lane.

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    You are seeing the effects of late stage capitalism.

    People working 2 jobs and still not have as much disposable income as they had with a single income in the past.

    Not having money aside of the work, no time and mental load: it kills motivation, not wanting to be creative, and your health goes downhill also and you can’t afford to treat it anyway.

    If you ask a 50 something about how long they think have left, yo will have half the amount than 2 generations ago.

    Everything is on fire …

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      I’m 56, I can wobble though a sub 2 hour half marathon. You’re spot on about money. We have no kids, and own our house now. So can afford to have time to train, have a good diet etc etc.