I still can’t stop but think how stretched out the Hobbit films were, for an otherwise short book. That’s a sin that stains forever with me. The Lord of the Rings films, do have their own flaws, but they’re fairly contained and can be debated as to whether they were good or not. I have so much trouble excusing anything with the Hobbit though.

And I hope we never, ever see anyone tackle The Silmarillion. Simply because, there will be so much improvised fluff in that would-be film, that it’d make the Hobbit films blush.

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    And I hope we never, ever see anyone tackle The Silmarillion.

    I think you are too late with that hope. If not directly Silmarillion, The Rings of Power does try to further exploit the story leading up to the age of LotR. And it is as bad as could be anticipated. I couldn’t watch more than 3 episodes…

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    Media or entertainment? Kinda different animals.

    Pretty much any book-to-movie adaptation. 90% are awful. It’s a rare case when they’re better or equal adaptations.

    General media? The spinelessness of our news organizations across the board. A free press doesn’t exist, they bend a knee to their corporate billionaire overlords. They don’t tell the whole truth, they hold back, they don’t call a spade a spade. They should be part of the apparatus protecting the common person from the bullshit the rich and government try to sweep under the rug. At best, they’re complicit in their silence, at worst they’re active participants aiding the rich.

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    Anything star trek after ST:Enterprise

    The movies were all dumbed down pew pew flare flare versions of previous star trek movies, the series were horrendously dumb and badly written, in a show that is about the stories, ethics, morale, etc.

    It was awful and the only shining light was the series “The Orville” by Seth McFarlane who is a huge star trek fan and it shows.

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    The original plan was to make two Hobbit movies, but after the release of the first one they decided to expand it to three. I think two movies would have been alright, although the whole thing was way too intense and violent and digital.

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      I actually maybe wouldn’t have minded two movies. Then again, I say it should’ve been one 3-hour long film and given the extended treatment the LOTR films got. It’d be one long, but eventful movie.

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    I cannot forgive the fact that we had two times of writer strikes. They literally make your gold. What the fuck are yall doing

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    Doctor Who going to Disney. I haven’t even watched it. Maybe it’s ok, but classic British shows never really survive getting Americanised. I lost interest about halfway through the Jodie Whittaker era - specifically The Timeless Child nonsense.

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    Are videogames media also ye? Cause I can think of many many examples that I could honestly just do a new post about it

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    The Enders Game movie. Just WTF, every part of it was worse than the book.

    Except possibly Harrison Ford. He is great as a gruff arsehole, past his prime, but still awesome.

    Just looked it up on IMDb, how can it possibly have a 6.6?

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      Honestly, it was a book that should have been two movies. You make the first movie end with Ender’s team winning in the academy. You them make the second movie’s depiction of the battles more abstract so you prepare the audience for another triumphant win, just to find out that Ender committed a genocide.

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    I have so much trouble excusing anything with the Hobbit though.

    The song “I see fire” was good, if you think of it singing about a volcano eruption/nuke instead of Smaugh.

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      Was gonna mention this. Cuts about half of each film into one 4 hour film, and is incredibly well done imo. I watch it a few times a year, if it didn’t exist I don’t think I would have rewatched the trilogy at all.

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      There are two edits that are worth checking out. My fav is the one that leaves only what was in the books. It’s the only thing that’s made the movie watchable for me.

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    Battlestar Galactica, and any other time the writers are just writing down the rabbit hole without having any clue what story they’re going to tell. The writers of Battlestar introduced one mystery after another and worked to sell the audience on the belief that they were going somewhere good with all this. They had jack shit and I’m not getting that time back.

    Some other offenders:

    Star Wars sequels: how the fuck did that get greenlit for like a billion dollars without any living soul knowing what the plot was gonna be

    Mulholland Drive: fuck you David Lynch, explain this shit or GTFO. If I want dream logic I’ll go to sleep

    Lost: J J Abrams you spoiled little rich kid fuckass

    Times that didn’t happen:

    Andor: just an adamantine brick shithouse of storytelling

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    I guess a decade of slop media where nothing is sacred and everything must be exploited has hardened my heart from caring about anything anymore. A younger me cared about why the Star Wars sequels are bad or that they cancelled Firefly too quickly or that Community fired Dan Harmon. But all these properties are just tools of corpo oppression at this point. Art doesn’t have the same impact if they are just trying to squeeze every last dollar out of them.

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      I firmly believe that there are real artists trying to say things and tell cool stories in these companies, and real shit does somehow sneak out on occasion (see Andor, perfectly imperfect jewel), but the utter financialization and commoditization of media means there’s so many filters a work has to push through before it’s allowed to survive. Like mass marketability etc — stuff that non artists make up to justify their salary.

      PS not hating on non-artists (kind of don’t believe the category exists, but as a role) it’s just that when the share of people expecting to get paid from a work is mostly admin, marketing, logistics, rather than the people actually making the thing, incentives and culture get warped.

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        I loved the early internet, where people were doing art for arts sake and funslop for funslops sake.

        Then there was a tiny tiny period where people started making money doing it, and I was young and naive enough to truly believe we could have a kind of content-utopia where creative types would flourish etc etc.

        The trend-chasing algorithm-humping stifling any chance of financial success for creativity and inventiveness was pretty inevitable in hindsight, but still.

        The feelings gone and we’ll never get it back.

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        Yeah tbh there’s actually been a bit of a revival in the movie space ever since the Marvel universe had its final moment. Everything Everywhere All At Once is actually legitimately one of the best movies I’ve ever seen. One Battle After Another, Eddington, even smaller movies like Mickey 17. So clearly creativity isn’t dead.

        I never watched Andor, not because I don’t think it’s probably good, but because it probably didn’t need the Star Wars license to be good. I’ve heard there anti capitalist themes in there and I just have a hard time seeing anti capitalist themes in mass market media as being genuine. It’s like buying a Che Guevara shirt from Urban Outfitters.

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          It definitely transcends its IP, which is why I feel it snuck through. If it wasn’t actually rock solid on top of being obviously subversive it would never have seen the light of day. It’s basically a manual on the dos and don’ts of rebelling.