• fizzle@quokk.au
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    13 days ago

    Nah man. “Evolutionarily” doesn’t give a fuck about anyone over 30 because you’ve already had enough kidlets and are about to die from a blood infection that took hold from a rotten tooth.

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      13 days ago

      Evolution cares whether you can keep the kidlets safe until they themselves have kidlets tho. That should give you at least another 5 years before your spine self-destructs

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        13 days ago

        Fair point. I don’t think that precludes some extra weight around the waist in your 30s though?

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      11 days ago

      Genetically coded social behavior helps the genes even when they don’t help the individual. The most obvious example is how each worker bee in a hive or worker ant in a colony is a genetic dead end, with no offspring, but will do plenty of work to help the overall hive/colony survive.

      We’re hard wired to raise our children, as can be shown by just how helpless our children are at birth, and how long it takes for them to form full maturity. That extends to the whole village, including grandparents.

      Meanwhile, plenty of anthropological evidence shows that we form coalitions and tribes and work together to advance group interests, and that it’s been going on for our entire species’ history, including in the genealogical line that we descend from, outcompeting other hominids and even other branches of homo sapien that didn’t form such complex alliances.

      Our brains are hard wired to develop complex language for communication with other humans. This is what helped us thrive as a species, to where our evolutionary success threatens to harm our greater environment.

      But that just shows that humans are really good at socializing. And as social creatures, we have evolutionary value even beyond our direct ability to produce offspring.

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        11 days ago

        Sure, but there’s no evolutionary incentive for people to be sexually attractive after prime breeding age.

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          Well, not-so-prime breeding age is still has reproduction potential greater than zero. And the social effects still matter, with the interplay between sexual attraction/ desirability and all the other social factors. So extended sexual attractiveness might be a side effect of something else that is evolutionarily advantageous (including correlation with prime age sexual attractiveness): being athletic and smart and funny and charismatic are all attractive traits that have functionality outside of just reproducing.