Will vegans ever learn that taking the moral high ground has never worked for converting anyone?
Fine dude, you’re better human than me, congratulations. Call me when you start doing activisms against the carnic industry and not the people or leave me the fuck alone.
The “carnic industry” is the people, the suppliers and the consumers. You think dismantling a factory farm alone is going to end meat consumption? You’d still be out there finding a way to indulge, so the problem has to be dealt with at its source. Now some people might complain that killing humans in defense of animals is morally wrong, but taking the moral high ground has never worked for converting anyone.
The “carnic industry” is the people, the suppliers…
Yes, exactly!
…and the consumers.
*Facepalm*
You think dismantling a factory farm alone is going to end meat consumption?
Literally yes? Though not just one, obviously. Also, the total end of meat consumption is stupid; reducing it is more feasible.
Now some people might complain that killing humans in defense of animals is morally wrong, but taking the moral high ground has never worked for converting anyone.
The hell are you talking about? Are you just saying stuff and using my words to look smart a cocky?
Suppliers meet a demand. Dismantle one, or all of them, and the demand will continue if the consumer’s attitude isn’t changed, it’ll just be a black market. There’s no formal crack industry but there’s still supply and demand. Blaming your meat eating on the existence of suppliers is one of the saddest blame shifts and lack of personal accountability statements I’ve ever read. Trying to convince me that if the industry was removed that humanity would accept it as the new norm is… unrealistic.
My abandoning of the moral high ground approach, which you suggested does not get people to change, is indeed a cocky spin on your words (I thought that was obvious) because you acknowledge it’s the moral high ground then demand to be left alone to indulge your derelict morality. If you concede moral superiority, prepare to be called out for your lower standards. Escalate with snark, get snark thrown back at you. Don’t like it? Go find some echo chamber where you don’t have to have your values challenged.
But quick question, you said to go after the industry, not people, but then agreed when I said the industry is people. So who exactly am I supposed to be targeting?
So too fucking bad. People can discuss subjects that make you uncomfortable. Don’t even bother to engage if you’re just gonna say “everyone shut the fuck up because I’m here.”
Will vegans ever learn that taking the moral high ground has never worked for converting anyone?
Fine dude, you’re better human than me, congratulations. Call me when you start doing activisms against the carnic industry and not the people or leave me the fuck alone.
The “carnic industry” is the people, the suppliers and the consumers. You think dismantling a factory farm alone is going to end meat consumption? You’d still be out there finding a way to indulge, so the problem has to be dealt with at its source. Now some people might complain that killing humans in defense of animals is morally wrong, but taking the moral high ground has never worked for converting anyone.
Yes, exactly!
*Facepalm*
Literally yes? Though not just one, obviously. Also, the total end of meat consumption is stupid; reducing it is more feasible.
The hell are you talking about? Are you just saying stuff and using my words to look smart a cocky?
Suppliers meet a demand. Dismantle one, or all of them, and the demand will continue if the consumer’s attitude isn’t changed, it’ll just be a black market. There’s no formal crack industry but there’s still supply and demand. Blaming your meat eating on the existence of suppliers is one of the saddest blame shifts and lack of personal accountability statements I’ve ever read. Trying to convince me that if the industry was removed that humanity would accept it as the new norm is… unrealistic.
My abandoning of the moral high ground approach, which you suggested does not get people to change, is indeed a cocky spin on your words (I thought that was obvious) because you acknowledge it’s the moral high ground then demand to be left alone to indulge your derelict morality. If you concede moral superiority, prepare to be called out for your lower standards. Escalate with snark, get snark thrown back at you. Don’t like it? Go find some echo chamber where you don’t have to have your values challenged.
But quick question, you said to go after the industry, not people, but then agreed when I said the industry is people. So who exactly am I supposed to be targeting?
Vegans aren’t better than you just because you make more harmful choices.
Nobody made you click this thread. You don’t want to be left alone, you want people to stop talking about subjects you don’t like.
Well, yes.
So?
So too fucking bad. People can discuss subjects that make you uncomfortable. Don’t even bother to engage if you’re just gonna say “everyone shut the fuck up because I’m here.”