Only 1/3 of the voting age population voted against MAGA after having a 10 year preview. The US is unsalvageable. Live your life while you can. There are too few patriots to fight back against this hoard of loyalists.
Democrats have no intention of changing anything meaningful. We learned that when Obama had a supermajority and became a black Dubya, despite his extravagant progressive promises.
Our only power is local now, and they know this, which is why they swift-boated Mamdani and ran a Democratic partisan against him.
Yes, it will take a major disruption to necessitate any meaningful change at the national level.
Correct to answer OP, yes you can’t vote your way out of fascism. So we will need a war to get out of this mess.
Then to the Democrats the current Democratic Party is already right of Regan. It’s that racket effect. Fuck up part if things keep going as business as usual. Then your next major Democratic candidates will be no different then Trump.
But all that moot. Again we can’t vote our way out of this nightmare. And before 2030 we will all be living in hell run by oligarchy tecno bros. With all the AI data center sucking up all our water and they rounded up as much of the population that they can. Then it over.
You think North Korea is bad wait until we are living in just that type of world in America were statues of Trump liter the country and anybody that doesn’t worship him is locked in a work camp.
Small nit-pick it is “ratchet” effect
I hope there is. War is never the answer but these two parties are really pushing everyone to extremes
I looked it up a while back so forgive me if I didn’t get it right but I believe there have been two cases in history of a peaceful transition from fascism to democracy. Anyway, I’m hoping for that.
Portugal and Spain in the 1970s?
There are several other examples of a more or less peaceful transition from autocracy to democracy.
No.
No.
Elections were meant to be bloodless revolution. What about “You are forced to vote for someone who doesn’t represent you” screams bloodless revolution?
Usually this is where I would make a long winded comment about replacing First-past-the-post voting with a voting system that allows more then two parties to exist without a spoiler effect… but that time has long since passed us by.
Democrats refused to implement the change Obama promised, Republicans eventually won. GG no RE. Good luck out there yall.
Fix what exactly? Hard to answer, when the question isn’t clearly defined.
Not denying, that there’s a lot to be fixed. But regarding the means, that depends on what exactly you’re talking about.
Unfortunately no you are not and you and all the rest are completely wrong.
Are you willing to due first? There’s a big problem that the last few generations of people don’t know war and are to willing to get into it.
Nope. I am not prescribing a solution here. I am asking if people believe there is any other solution, and if there is hope to avoid it.
The degree of the chaos between current governmental state and a better government is the concern i always wonder about. One thing we know is that the rich dont want it to fundamentally change. Even the dems. When biden was comforting a group of megawealthy donors and assuring them that ‘nothing would fundamentally change’ with him in charge, he was speaking for the party. And they havent budged from there. They are not friends of the common people but they are somewhat closer to us than the gop.
It’ll take a few more
assassinationsLuigi-like incidents before any oligarchs start taking us serfs seriously.No, they’d first lock us down hard. They don’t have any humanity in them to take us seriously.
Adventurism doesn’t generally bring about change, it just justifies further repressions. Organizing is what brings change and enables actual conquest of political power.
How do you organise when the billionaires own the media and the social media platforms? Further, if you’re in the US, how do you organise when the sitting pedophile declares anti-fascism as terrorism and you can be locked up or killed for the association?
Walk around your neighbourhood inviting strangers to a Signal chat?
For starters, begin with adopting good OPSEC principles. Privacy is a valuable shield.
Secondly, learn from successful revolutionaries. I made a basic Marxist-Leninist reading list as a helpful introduction, study how revolutionary parties work and function.
Finally, get organized. Join a party like the Party for Socialism and Liberation. Some of your org work may in fact involve walking around your neighborhood and inviting strangers to chats! The primary focus at the present moment is to build a revolutionary party capable of directing the working classes in the case of crisis.
Revolution is necessary, because the bourgeois state cannot be dismantled and a proletarian state put in place via peaceful means.
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If they thought we could vote our way into socialism, they wouldn’t let us vote.
Definitely true!
Hence the supreme court decision and the mad rush to gerrymander the fuck out of every state they can.
The DNC isn’t socialist though, it’s just two factions of capitalists duking it out.
While that’s true, I do think that neither of those camps is willing to so much as slide back into a welfare state (even with extra imperialism on the side). The DNC doesn’t want any more Mamdanis (even though he’s a socdem at best), and if they think this’ll prevent that, they’ll let it happen, no matter how much they claim to oppose it. If there were any possibility of an actual socialist being elected, we’d see way worse than this.
Agreed! I actually think the current factional war within the DNC might make room for a third party.
I think you may be right. I just hope we can get them to move left instead of right. Nate Bear’s recent post really gave me pause, because I know a lot of people who want to maintain their treats above all else. I want to have some faith in humanity, but we’re definitely going to have our work cut out for us, I think.
I won’t hold out for the DNC moving left. Entryism doesn’t seem to be a valid approach.
I think you’re probably right, but I do worry about any violence that would ensue . . .
Violence is an unfortunate necessity when pacifism ensures loss.
As things stand, unfortunately, the far-right is significantly better armed and better prepared for a breakdown in government.
While I would prefer to peacefully reform the system, it’s increasingly clear that there’s validity to the saying, “If you want peace, prepare for war.” The fact that the right is better positioned for a breakdown in order allows them to push further and further without fear. Civil war or revolution isn’t going to be something the left chooses, rather, if current trends continue (and it seems like they will) we may end up in a situation where it’s forced upon us and we are left but no choice to defend ourselves.
It’s not necessarily an all-or-nothing deal. There are methods of fighting back that are more effective than relying on the Democrats but don’t constitute full-on revolution, such as strikes. While strikes are non-violent, history has shown that they have potential to become violent, for example, if a boss hires mercenaries to force people back to work at gunpoint.
Likewise, if masked gunmen started showing up to people’s workplaces, demanding some of the workers to be handed over to be taken as hostages, workers need to be prepared to deal with that emergency.
Practically speaking, even if you wanted a revolution, there’s now way that would even be viable while practical steps for community defense have not been made. I’m not sure it’s rhetorically necessary to go further than that, particularly on a public forum.
I’m only quibbling with the right is better prepared.
The core issue for them is they are building their preparedness around “rugged individualism” and we prepare with resilient communities.
Great point I don’t see made enough. The right in the US is better armed, but preparedness involves more than just arms. Obviously creating communities and networks is incredibly important as well.
I think that the Trump Regime has inadvertently created the communities that will resist them in the future: former military staff of good character and skill have been exiled, as have many government workers. These people will form the backbone of future governments.
The Trump Regime has self-selected for corruption, cowardice, and servility, while creating foes that very much lack such qualities.
FWIW, Karl Marx agreed with you.
The united states needs a Sun Yat Sen level reformer to come along if they want to get out of this mess.
I’m afraid the rot has spread much farther than that. Yes, without a violent upheaval of some sort, the U.S. is fucked but the problem had long since broken containment…
In the Borderlands in-game universe, there’s references to historical “corporate wars”, when the corporations seized political power and promptly began to duke it out to see who was going to be on top of the pile. At least that’s how I imagine it in my head. But fuck if it doesn’t look like that’s the most likely future coming our way.
Never forget, it was Taco Bell that won the Franchise Wars.
