This isn’t a complain about the game, neither a compliment.
It’s something personal I guess, not related to anything else, but myself, I think I just need to vent.
Maybe the game romanticize way too much the life in the year around 1900 and the thing is I just love the life how they portrait it. The game is extremely immersive and it’s hitting me hard.
Everything is so simple, there’s so much respect between people, they live camping with a simple life, everybody trying to help to survive as they can, singing at the end of nights, having profound and philosophical talking. It’s such a more human focused life.
Seeing a simple life like that and comparing to the modern world makes me feel sad. Today we have cars, cities, buildings, very few vegetation, a lot of pollution, everybody is so fixed on being clean, good looking, companies rule the world, people accepting being modern slaves in exchange of a little comfort and convenience. It’s truly a disappointment to me.
I’d exchange 20-30 years living in a world like RDR2 shows than 70-80 years in the modern world. That’s right, I’d rather die trying to hunt for food and learning how to survive in the woods than a massive boring life doing the exact same thing every single day in front of a computer.
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ok now imagine Arthur is black or native or a woman, and re-evaluate these thoughts from that perspective
Can we have everything back, without racism and misogyny though? I think thats was OP means.
Basically, 1999.
Yes, the late 90s. Notorious for its lack of racism and misogyny.
Crime rates in black communities were down! Just ignore the increase in arrests and incarceration of black people due to a push for an increased police presence in “bad” neighbourhoods.
Women had the world in their hands! Just ignore that time when the president of the United States took advantage of an intern sexually, and SHE was the one that was vilified for the encounter, while he is still remembered as a chill guy.
There have always been racism and misogyny in our world. If you think there wasn’t, you either weren’t there, or were very white and male at the time.
ah yes 1999, when using the word “gay” as an insult on TV was perfectly acceptable
You didnt read my full comment . i should include bigotry I guess.
Are you friends with your neighbours? I’d start there. Kith is valuable.
Have you been diagnosed for depression? There may be less extreme options than sacrificing 40 entire years of life to live outside of the city.
Whatever you decide to do, I’m glad this game is getting a big reaction from you. Even if it’s rare, I hope you look forward to the next game that feels this special in the future
there’s so much respect between people
Unless they were black, of course
Or women
Or native
I mean, it is readily known that modern society has been incredibly detrimental to community and togetherness. People are so isolated from each other and it’s all by design.
It’s the very thing that Arthur and John (especially in RDR1) fight back against. The underlying force that is driving them away: the coming of modern industrialization and the cultural shift across the country that would eventually become modern society.
Our society today is incredibly sick, and humanity has been moving in the wrong direction for generations unfortunately.
You can go live exactly like that right this minute in the Alaskan wilderness or similar areas . get rid of your phone and all electricity.
I split wood in the winters for fires sometimes, and even I don’t want to go do that 24/7. We have it way too good.
Spend your energy trying to topple the fascist regime instead.
I got weirdly emotional the other day reading about Yellowstone and thinking about what people must have thought when they stumbled on Old Faithful.
Had they ever seen anything like that? Probably didn’t even know what it was. Even if they were a first generation American, it’s not like Europe is covered in geysers.
I got kinda sad knowing that every major natural feature on earth has already been discovered. I know that’s hyperbolic but…the bottom of the ocean isn’t something a normal person will ever see.
Sometimes I think about that meme:
Born too late to explore the earth, born too early to explore the universe, born just in time to explore memes.
I guess if you consider silently scrolling through variations on the same dozen jokes over and over a form of exploration…
It’s a bit ironic when meme culture cluttered and homogenized the internet
Yeah, this game helped me “get” Westerns. It’s a romanticization of the last period before the industrial revolution and federalization caught up to the entire country. RDR in general is about the end of that period, where you can’t just ride to the next town over and restart your life.
Prior to my advice below I’d recommend discussing this with a professional first based on some of your post history.
Once you get to a point where you are open to looking toward the future you could look into a ranger job in a national park/firewatch. It sounds pretty close to what you’re looking for being out in nature, disconnected from modern society, and sort of a frontier for you to conquer. However as it’s very isolated you really should get to a good place mentally first.
Sounds like you are projecting.
You either are developing depression or if it’s an actual desire, you should think about moving to a more rural area and start your own business.
The parts of the world that are like you described are the big cities and big companies. There’s still a lot to love about the world and the humans that live in it.
I’d exchange 20-30 years living in a world like RDR2 shows than 70-80 years in the modern world.
Do you people hear yourself
Great post. I’m in the second play of it. Take your time. Enjoy all the ambience. In real life, all we have is now. In games, we can lose ourselves and that is enchanting.
Please stay far far away from any suspected cults.
I understand that it can feel that way, but remember that video games are romanticized interpretations that make things way easier than they are in real life. Life back then wasn’t RDR2 and there’s no guarantee that you’d find the community you’re imagining, and a much higher chance you’d have to deal with the harsh realities of those times
If you think RDR2 is a simple romanisation you haven’t played much of the game…
At the end of the day it’s still a video game designed to be fun to a mass market of consumers, even if it shows the rough parts players aren’t actually dealing with everything back then
Idk if you’ve played the game, but you regularly have to deal with pretty harsh realities of those times.
OP isn’t wrong, though. RDR2 does a good job of putting you in the shoes of someone 125y ago (as much as a real time simulation projected on a 2D surface can), after all, someone 125y ago wasn’t thinking “man, these times sure have some harsh realities”, it was just the world they knew.
While I don’t think the writers intended the takeaway to be “look how much better life was in the wild west”, they did intend to give some perspective on what “freedom” meant to people in the US 125y ago. And how something things have changed while others have stayed exactly the same.
I’m just saying there’s a difference between playing a game designed to provide a fun and rewarding experience and actually going through those harsh realities in real life
RDR2 does a good job of putting you in the shoes of someone 125y ago
Does it? I wasn’t alive then, and I doubt any of the devs were either. Even if you’re going off first hand sources it can still be hard to know if the perception we have today is actually accurate to how it was back then
Tell me you stopped reading my comment mid-sentence without telling me.
It’s my favorite game of all time and the only game I ever took a day off work for launch. I even moved out west in part because of it.
If you want to immerse yourself in the period more, check out Ken Burns’ The West.
Have you ever been outside in -40 weather? Or spent a night in it? Or spent a day in 40c weather without ac? I’m only curious cause of your stance. Both suck ass, been at both (thankfully we had cabins available at the -40 weather when the fire went out).
Mean it sounds quant but you can try the actual stuff beforehand, spend a week in the bush with minimal goods, I haven’t and wouldn’t want to. I still treked through them for a month due to a school I was in, that’s the summer side though not hot just usual summer temps.
Not trying to harsh ya or anything it’s just until you’ve been through a month of camping (okay we did have food brought in) or very cold weather for a few nights outdoors it’s hard to be serious about wanting that.
Mean if you want to die hunting? Have at it. I’m just saying you need some build up before you get to what you’d prefer and survive well.
And to those that do it? They have my respect I’ve been in the wild even with food drops, and it can suck for anyone used to modern world. Also I’m in my late 40s my experience was early 90s when gortex was awesome to have as an outer wear and few of us had it.
Also the first game was one of the few games I’ve finished in my life (yes I suck at games plus adhd) and quite enjoyed the second but never finished it. Stuck on a mission where everything is aggro or something it just stopped being fun
I do see your view though for sure and can appreciate it.
-40 is the same in both Celsius and Fahrenheit which is kinda cool. It’s also a pretty extreme situation. I’m not a historian, but I’m pretty sure people would plan to travel to warmer climates, like maybe Tahiti, or have some shelter for winter or they’d be ya know… Dead.
