• seralth@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Elon to my knowledge hasn’t been the founder of a single project he’s been part of. He’s bought everything.

      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        Yep, he’s your typical parasitic orbiting-usurper, buzzing around people of talent until the opportunity presents itself for him to steal all their work while they’re busy making the future happen.

        Steve Jobs was exactly the same. Wozniak made the Apple 1 a reality and before that, he used Wozniak’s discarded Pong PCBs to get a job at Atari. At Atari he was just a talentless socially domineering psychopath doing shakedown on the company’s nerd for his lunch money.

        When assigned a task to create a cost-optimized version of the game Breakout, were he was offered 100$ for each TTL chip he could optimize out of the design. So he went to his “friend” Wozniak, who managed to remove 50 chips from the design. Steve Jobs made 5000$ (in 1976 money) and he “let” Wozniak have 375$ of this. All jobs did is the menial work of etching the PCBs sketched by Wozniak and solder some of them.

        Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are truely despicable pieces of shit and I say as a society, and for the good of everyone, we should use the dystopian surveillance capitalism to find all people like them and box them right out so we don’t have to suffer such parasitic psychopaths.

        • T. Hex@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 months ago

          Unlike Elon, I feel like Steve Jobs legitimately had skills. Of course, it’s completely despicable of him to scoop more than 10x the profit compared to Woz in that example. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Jobs was a talented asshole, but Elon is just a no-talent asshole.

            • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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              9 months ago

              The thing is, literally anyone working in the industry had visionary ideas at that time. The best of which were completely destroyed by people like Musk, Gates, and others that forced a profit model on an internet with unlimited potential.

              The most frustrating thing about the net is how much it has become owned by private companies. Our entire model of digital sales is built on a fake idea of scarcity on a technology that entirely removes the scarcity of resources that capitalism requires.

              People like him succeeded not because they had visionary or ground breaking ideas. They succeeded because they offered monetization models that could capture digital infrastructure and restrict its potential in order for their investor’s to profit.

              Edit: if this rant interests you you’d enjoy this documentary.

              https://youtu.be/oLLxpAZzy0s

    • pyre@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      and he isn’t visionary. that’s 2 out of 3…

      I’ll allow asshole but it’s still a bit too flattering for him.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Oh, but Elon is a founder, he paid enough to retcon himself as such, so he is.

      Can’t argue him being a ‘visionary’ though, unless you count ambitions that are vague enough so they are not actually actionable and obvious enough that pretty much any random person would be predicting the same thing.

  • B-TR3E@feddit.org
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    9 months ago

    I don’t think Linus Thorvalds is either very stylish or really an asshole. He might be a bit short fused, but not an asshole.

    • luciferofastora@feddit.org
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      9 months ago

      I think he’s an asshole¹ but he’s not nearly on the same level as Elmo or any other billionaire. Between actually working and contributing, not being as hardcore exploitative capitalist, and not having nearly the same level of hoarded wealth², there’s just far less potential for assholery.

      1: Mind, I still value his work, but the way he sometimes treats people reaches into asshole territory for me.
      2: A superficial search suggests a net worth of $50 million. In perspective, that’s $0.05 billion, compared to the late Jobs’ $10.8 billion (0.5%) or Musk’s ~$400 billion (0.01%)

    • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Eh - I mean, I’m not an asshole all the time, but I can be occasionally. I’m also not very stylish.

      Wait…am I Linus Thorvalds? Nope.

      • buttnugget@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        He’s definitely a bit of an asshole. I appreciate his propensity to talk shit to people, I enjoy that myself, but he equates intelligence with technical skill and tells people they just need a thicker skin if they don’t like his abuse.

  • moseschrute@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You all don’t know what you’re talking about. Elon absolutely is a visionary. Who else could come up with the new Tesla Roadster with rocket thruster package (source)? Now, actually brining that vision to market, yeah Elon might not be your guy. Now that I think about it, his visions are more like delusions. Maybe let’s call him a delusionary.

    Also gonna put this here if you would like to read more of his delusions. https://elonmusk.today/

  • deadbeef@lemmy.nz
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    10 months ago

    I would have figured the three Linuses would have been like:

    1. Enthusiastic loud mouthed young Linus arguing with Tannenbaum.

    2. Aggressive Linus with no filter at all slapping maintainers upside the head.

    3. Aggressive Elder Linus with a personal insult filter applied still slapping maintainers upside the head.

    • Zink@programming.dev
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      9 months ago

      That’s how I used to say it decades ago when it was one of those “I have only ever read it” words.

      It’s probably because I knew the name Linus from Peanuts / Charlie Brown, and in that they pronounce it “Lie-nuss.” So back then I said “Lie-nux.” When I first heard it as “Linn-nix” it sounded not just wrong but less cool.

      But between having watched videos of Torvalds speak, and knowing a handful of Finland’s neighbors (Swedes) the correct pronunciation of “Linn-nix” is the only way I even think of it in my head now.