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Sorry, were you quoting someone? I can’t see that anywhere else… but perhaps I missed it.

I’ve had this discussion quite a bit, and it’s tough to break the 77 cents on the dollar and whatnot rhetoric, because those people are convinced that a man and a woman doing the same job with equal experience, the woman just automatically makes on average 23% less than a man. And it’s easy to prove that wrong, and entirely misses the point.

With the pervasiveness of social media, outrage culture, and, frankly, the steadily increasing difficulty to finding credible sources of information… it’s just far too easy to just revert to our baser “tribalistic” tendencies and blame someone and get mad. Toss into the mix the fact that a lot of these topics are sensitive issues and boy howdy EVERYTHING is a powderkeg and ONLY black and white despite evidence to the contrary.

[…] Now, I imagine a lot has changed in 23 years, so maybe that mentality has changed, but if all else is fixed and there is a “pay gap” based on choice like that… that’s not a problem that needs to be solved.

Agreed on this point. Different strokes for different folks.

So to recap, we need to stop talking about cents on the dollar and start talking about making rejoining the workforce more available and appealing after having babies, and giving dads more time with their kids to let their wives work.

I’d really like to see a world where it’d be possible for both parents to get leave, be able to work part time while not being put in a financially dire situation, and still have access to crucial things like affordable healthcare and insurance. A pipedream - without question… but one can hope.

Don’t be caught being evil…

Science

…Although at the rate we are going it may well be referred to as such in the stories told about “the before times” as people huddle around the fire.

As I recall there have been a number of studies done on this… and they fall into the “technically true” if you looked specifically at gender within a given work pool and discounted all other factors then this is the answer you arrive at.

Unfortunately, every single one of these that I have personally read … all suffered from the fact that other factors play a part in that somewhat disingenuous number. If roles are factored in - these numbers begin to fall apart. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread: women have maternity leave… and following that can look to exit the workforce or move to part time. Compensation can be different between these categories. Continuing down this path: in a household that is dual income - it has been traditional to see the woman leave the workforce for child rearing opposed to the man. So looking at a given workforce, specifically at a given role in that group may still have a disparity in experience and time in the position (and thus compensation.) Lastly there is the bane of all - starting compensation negotiations. It is my understanding that generally men are more aggressive / assertive during this phase in the hiring process.

In short: this is stupidly difficult to generate fair and correct numbers for this type of metric and RARELY does it behoove the party running that inquiry to get the details right. The more accurate the results: the less sensational the number. Now to be clear: I do believe that there are cases where there are unfair practices taking place - but they are the exception… not the rule.

At the end of the day - if we made it commonplace to be acceptable to discuss compensation… And put some more workers rights laws into place… We’d have a system where everyone could have a fair shake in a job, equally.

I’d be happy to be proven wrong with some numbers that have actually factored in these variables. With regard to OPs statement: that number looks strikingly familiar to one horrifyingly old and incorrectly run survey.

Share an ice cold one with a friend!

I can’t say I like the particular use of words there 😅

I’ve got some bad news.

Funny how that works. ;)

Nintendo isn’t just the nestle of companies to users… they are the same or worse to their own.

I’ve seen people lose teams over errant comments about a novel idea for the IP they would love to see happen, or maybe even be developing as a passion project, purged for the notion that they were anything more than drones.

It’s a disgusting work culture taking advantage of bright eyed developers that grew up with fond memories of the brand. I genuinely love some of the IP and worlds made by the developers - but I will never, ever, spend a fucking penny on that company until it is changed.

mmmm banana bombs, holy hand grenades, and those cursed shopping levels * shudder *

Look I don’t fault developers for kissing the ring. I know and have spoken with multiple devs at different Nintendo affiliated companies and they don’t enjoy it either but it lets them make the games they love for the people that they want to entertain.

I can’t say I support hating a full group of people because that’s not great either. “… except for the Amish but it’ll never get back to them” - John Pinette

I see Nintendo emulation / mod chipping / console hacking I support it. Toxic company deserves a return in kind for its abuse of its fanbase.

Meanwhile StarCraft, one of the most pervasive rts for its time and in the PC gaming sphere in general … let you have multiple people play multiplayer on a single disk. Offline. It’s kinda like it advertised itself and people went out to buy it… which influenced more people… who bought it… gasp.

Mindblowing.

I had this as my take away too. I could personally give two shits about his or any others creators userbase / content - I think that if we want Linux adoption rates up it’s always welcome when it is talked about.

They’re still around and the various configuration technologies tap into them.

I noted this in a dismissive way… Yes they exist; but as mentioned - depreciation and outright ignoring settings has become a thing Microsoft has willingly done if they feel “they know better.” (Reboots and update times are an excellent example of this.)

Yep, configuring Microsoft has sucked incredibly hard compared to free OSs. Managing plain text configuration files in /etc & ~/.config is refreshingly nice compared to the bolt-on weirdness hidden behind various interfaces in Windows. It’s cute getting an error to contact your administrator when you’re the administrator.

Locking some things out makes sense. This exists in all OSs… what is maddening is Microsoft almost aggressively working against admins. Want local accounts? No sir. Not allowed. Not unless you remove the network card, face the PC east at precisely 2:30 am, and type a 40 character rolling code into the terminal that appears… twice.

Attention in that area is extremely late & overdue, so I was happy to see something like configuration.dsc.yaml.

While I agree - the point I was stressing was that many admins had perfectly workable scripts and methods that used the existing tooling as it was intended… and it’s mostly been fine. With their recent push into spyware inside ™ … ahem engagement … they seem to be actively punching holes in this to force management to their cloud resources which surely will not ever have problems …

I see AI mostly as an assistant whose work I review […] AI won’t fix broken foundations.

Agreed. It does have the means to save some time - but it’s just not “cooked enough” for me to use it on any meaningful level. Personally speaking.

I try to avoid Windows altogether if I can & confine it to less serious work.

Sadly some things I work with just don’t play with wine just yet otherwise I’d abandon it entirely. I’d personally love to, though.

What really bothers me is late in the patching cycle windows 2000 was borderline amazing and could be tuned to an absolutely minute footprint. If it was fully updated for x64 it would have been just about perfect. Nothing got in your way: very minimal UI with “just enough” modern features. Getting to almost any administrative interface was at its lowest “clicks to access” of any (subsequent) windows version. NT dna.

I may just have rose tinted glasses but from basically that point on it was all just bolted on UI garbage that got between you, your resources, and most importantly what you wanted to be doing. And when it comes down to it - regardless of what os were talking about - something has gone horribly wrong if that is the reality.

God help you if you want to assign multiple addresses to the same adapter. It’s like navigating a labyrinth.

But people in all these companies find the need to reorganize things to make it seem like they are accomplishing something.

Gotta put something on that LinkedIn profile. 🙄

Honestly it really feels like a race to the bottom with windows recently. It’s like taking a decent product and then just fucking with it to say you did. Nothing is gained and somehow, almost illogically, the action results in even more system resources burning up.