I am increasingly finding it difficult to see how the Israeli colonial regime is any better than the russians (putin is a mere symptom of the broad support for genocidal imperialism in russian society)
It’s not. The only reason Ukraine isn’t like Gaza is that Ukraine has an army to protect it, and if Ukraine didn’t have an army to protect it it’d be like Gaza. Russia and Israel are similar to a frankly kind of ridiculous degree.
Russia and Israel are similar to a frankly kind of ridiculous degree
It’s not so much that they are like each other, they are both proponents of a new sort of unforgiving, relentless warfare. For decades, we have been trying to fight wars with Rules, but the old saying “All’s fair in Love and War” has returned with a vengeance.
America has wasted trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, fighting wars by the Rules, with little to show for it, so it makes sense that new, more successful, methods of warfare would eventually emerge. When America’s next war starts, expect that we will be committing the same sorts of atrocities.
Israel is still a democracy. A flawed and increasingly failing democracy, but they are not (yet?) on the level of russia. Which for me makes their behaviour more puzzling.
I mean, democracies can commit all manners of atrocities too. Russia was a democracy when they invaded Chechnya if you remember that, and then you have all of Britain and France’s wonderful escapades in Africa and the Middle East and America’s wars over the past 70 years. Also I want to note that Israel has been like this since the very beginning.
Israel had a slight shift towards a more reasonable approach at some point, but then Yitzhak Rabin got murdered by an extremist linked to the Likud and it went back downhill from there.
That’s a good point. I guess I just wish there was more pushback within the Israel (there is some, but I get the impression it’s a tiny tiny minority).
It’s not. The only reason Ukraine isn’t like Gaza is that Ukraine has an army to protect it, and if Ukraine didn’t have an army to protect it it’d be like Gaza. Russia and Israel are similar to a frankly kind of ridiculous degree.
It’s not so much that they are like each other, they are both proponents of a new sort of unforgiving, relentless warfare. For decades, we have been trying to fight wars with Rules, but the old saying “All’s fair in Love and War” has returned with a vengeance.
America has wasted trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, fighting wars by the Rules, with little to show for it, so it makes sense that new, more successful, methods of warfare would eventually emerge. When America’s next war starts, expect that we will be committing the same sorts of atrocities.
But there are some important differences.
Israel is still a democracy. A flawed and increasingly failing democracy, but they are not (yet?) on the level of russia. Which for me makes their behaviour more puzzling.
I mean, democracies can commit all manners of atrocities too. Russia was a democracy when they invaded Chechnya if you remember that, and then you have all of Britain and France’s wonderful escapades in Africa and the Middle East and America’s wars over the past 70 years. Also I want to note that Israel has been like this since the very beginning.
Israel had a slight shift towards a more reasonable approach at some point, but then Yitzhak Rabin got murdered by an extremist linked to the Likud and it went back downhill from there.
That’s a good point. I guess I just wish there was more pushback within the Israel (there is some, but I get the impression it’s a tiny tiny minority).
The US was a democracy when it fabricated evidence for an invasion of Iraq which is estimated to have killed 4 million people.
Democracy at home, tyrant abroad.
Being a democracy is no protection against committing war crimes.