'We support the work of those who are trying to limit the harm generative AI is doing to videogames and our world, and apologise that Big Walk’s LLM usage may not meet their standards'
This thread is depressing. I am always sad to find out how widespread AI usage is still even. You can live your life with so little AI usage and should. Programmers have put so many industries in these tiny, fragile little bubbles.
I’m a musician and it ruined music for me because a lot of musicians are also “just using a little to alleviate the crunch” or whatever. It’s all manufactured consent to fund companies that were all jockeying for Trump money the last two years.
But now it supports the Trump military AND it’s ruined the market for digital artists.
the difference with programming is that it’s an evolution of existing tools there rather than something new. the image/video/audio generators are much worse from that aspect.
At least with EDM which is my favorite music to make it is all pretty downstream from each other if you know what I mean.
Software developments lead to new soft synth developments. I quit using FL studio because now you can just have it write melodies, parts, mix and master, I don’t use any of that stuff but FL is in my meta tags now and it becomes impossible to prove. I was trying to record all of my sessions to validate my work but I’m too broke and homeless for that. It’s all just not worth it anymore.
I could just make songs for myself and that is fun but I can do that on any DAW so why not one where I can share my work with confidence it’s made from reading, conversations and practice? Right now I use KORG on the switch and while it’s a bit slower I can make awesome songs on it. And the people I usually share my work with are happy to hear I’m not using AI supporting companies.
yeah i’ve had to throw away a few artists i found using “random mix” because i was able to hear the typical ai noise artifacts. the more “predictable” it is the easier it is to generate, so edm makes sense.
I can run models on my local machine that are maybe 90% as good as the latest and greatest for pennies of electricity. And with special methods can essentially run even the latest and greatest as long as I’m willing to wait a while for results or make some other special concession, still for pennies of electricity.
Next time I upgrade my PC will be pricey, but I use my PC for more than just AI inference and will inevitably upgrade, and at that point LLM’s will likely have plateaued in capability, at least for a while. And I’ll essentially be able to run it all… for pennies of electricity.
The law of economics will keep prices AI subscription prices low, because local inference will always be a cheap alternative even as RAM prices remain bloated.
Any subsidization is for the training. Not the inference. All that will happen is the money for improving models will dry up, but the usage of existing models will remain affordable to a mass of users. LLM slop is here to stay essentially forever.
This thread is depressing. I am always sad to find out how widespread AI usage is still even. You can live your life with so little AI usage and should. Programmers have put so many industries in these tiny, fragile little bubbles.
I’m a musician and it ruined music for me because a lot of musicians are also “just using a little to alleviate the crunch” or whatever. It’s all manufactured consent to fund companies that were all jockeying for Trump money the last two years.
But now it supports the Trump military AND it’s ruined the market for digital artists.
the difference with programming is that it’s an evolution of existing tools there rather than something new. the image/video/audio generators are much worse from that aspect.
At least with EDM which is my favorite music to make it is all pretty downstream from each other if you know what I mean.
Software developments lead to new soft synth developments. I quit using FL studio because now you can just have it write melodies, parts, mix and master, I don’t use any of that stuff but FL is in my meta tags now and it becomes impossible to prove. I was trying to record all of my sessions to validate my work but I’m too broke and homeless for that. It’s all just not worth it anymore.
I could just make songs for myself and that is fun but I can do that on any DAW so why not one where I can share my work with confidence it’s made from reading, conversations and practice? Right now I use KORG on the switch and while it’s a bit slower I can make awesome songs on it. And the people I usually share my work with are happy to hear I’m not using AI supporting companies.
yeah i’ve had to throw away a few artists i found using “random mix” because i was able to hear the typical ai noise artifacts. the more “predictable” it is the easier it is to generate, so edm makes sense.
If it makes you feel any better, AI usage will plummet when those companies start charging more than it costs them to deliver it.
Not really, it’ll just mean everyone will be using Alibaba, z.ai and Deepseek models.
The laws of economics apply no matter which model it is. Right now, the costs to the end user are highly subsidized.
I can run models on my local machine that are maybe 90% as good as the latest and greatest for pennies of electricity. And with special methods can essentially run even the latest and greatest as long as I’m willing to wait a while for results or make some other special concession, still for pennies of electricity.
Next time I upgrade my PC will be pricey, but I use my PC for more than just AI inference and will inevitably upgrade, and at that point LLM’s will likely have plateaued in capability, at least for a while. And I’ll essentially be able to run it all… for pennies of electricity.
The law of economics will keep prices AI subscription prices low, because local inference will always be a cheap alternative even as RAM prices remain bloated.
Any subsidization is for the training. Not the inference. All that will happen is the money for improving models will dry up, but the usage of existing models will remain affordable to a mass of users. LLM slop is here to stay essentially forever.
I just reported your memory hogging ass to sam… expect to have your ram confiscated shortly.
Our RAM