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    I’ve encountered a surprising amount of seemingly intelligent, successful, people recently who of their own admission don’t read books. They just watch short videos, maybe a movie, and read social media.

    I’m not a researcher but I expect that their vocabulary is stunted as a result.

    But they’re so weirdly proud about it. Like a defiant 12 year old who doesn’t want to do his homework.

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      2 hours ago

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      People who proclaim others are Grammar Nazis generally may need to focus more on spelling and less on cheesy melodrama.

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    30 minutes ago

    So much badlinguistics in this thread I don’t even know where to start.

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    I’m not a grammar nazi, but I like to be helpful to people who want help:

    • Lose: Pronounced “loose”, as in “if you’re gonna challenge me to explain the difference between ‘lose’ and ‘loose’ well, ha, let’s just say you’re gonna lose/loose”

    • Loose: Pronounced “lose”, as in “just how lose/loose do you think AOC’s anal sphincter really is?”

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      It’s not just tiktok, I see people here (and everywhere) misuse “anymore” all the time these days. It needs to follow a negative!

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        Only if it’s a single molecule of water, which would make it water vapor, not water.

        If water makes things wet, then it makes the other water wet too.

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    I’ve been following this English teacher on Instagram, who has had every attempt at getting kids to read thwarted by the school admins, who don’t want anything ‘woke’ or ‘political’ or too challenging in any way. Which left this teacher with an empty library by the time the admin was done.

    So it’s not the kids’ fault, it’s not social media’s fault, it’s not even the teacher’s fault. It’s pearl clutching, conservative, anti ‘woke’, horse dewormer enjoying, piss drinkers that want these kids to stay stupid and unquestioning, and to have the reading ability of 5th graders.

    I guess that if you put a bunch of religious fruitcakes that think science and education are woke devil magic in charge of things, you’re going to end up with poorly educated children. Who would’ve thought?

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      37 minutes ago

      Come on, it’s a little social media’s fault, too. They also benefit from these kids staying stupid and unquestioning. I agree with everything else you said, though.

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    It would help if lose didn’t have the double O “oo” sound so when people who rely on phonetics sound it out they avoid stumbling into the loose trap.

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    I loosed it by losing 150 pounds. It’s a biological bummer that one can literally deflate themselves and things don’t re-tighten.

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        9 minutes ago

        I dropped from a 52 to a 38. I’ve since gained 60 of those pounds back, but a lot of it’s muscle.

        I kept the fat guy jeans to remind myself of where I started. Body dysmorphia’s a huge issue.

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      4 hours ago

      The bigger bummer is your fat cells don’t actually go away. They just shrink, so it’s easy to get fat again.

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    I am definitely one of those who makes typos and gets mad about this but - the internet needs to get more pedantic about spelling and grammar mistakes again.

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      Wouldn’t it be great if the internet automatically rejects any post that contains a lie or grammar/spelling error? The internet would get cleaned up SO DAMN QUICKLY! 😄

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    This will literally be the new literally, I guess.

    Spelling conventions have taken quite a hit in the age of automated subtitles. We’re devolving to the 1600s where this was more vibe based. I think there is also an element of wanting to show human frailty in content so no one suspects you of pushing slop.

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      Nothing has recently changed about the way people use the word literally. The figurative use of literally has been used in famous works by the likes of Dickins, Twain and at least one of the Bronte sisters, and was first noted in an English dictionary in 1769 - people have literally been using it that way for at least 250 years.

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        It is a bugbear for some, irregardless of when the first example was documented. Loose/lose has the potential to be such an annoyance. For some people.

        The word “new” can carry a connotation of “recent” but it more literally implies “the latest version.” For all intensive purposes, I did not mean to imply the controversy about the metaphorical use of “literally” was a recent development.

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          Fair enough. My comment wasn’t aimed so much at you, I just like pointing out that the use of literally as an intensifier has a long and prestigious history.

          Also, really sorry to do this to you, but it’s “all intents and purposes”, not “intensive purposes”.

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        Merriam Webster updated the definition of literally to include the “informal” figurative definition in 2013.

        Now I use “objectively” because literally doesn’t literally mean literally in the dictionary.

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        It’s changed massively in recent decades.

        Just because it had been used occasionally in the past is irrelevant (notably in metaphors or hyperbole). If anything, those literary uses strengthen the denotaton of the word.

        1530s, “in a literal sense, according to the exact meaning of the word or words used,” from literal + -ly

        The dictionary (OED) is built around common usage and clearly shows common usage for a long time.

        Just because illiterate Kardashians use it incorrectly doesn’t mean the rest of us should.

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          You are wrong.

          Getting upset at people using literally in a figurative manner is popular these days, but it isn’t based on an actual change in usage. There are actually dozens of other words used euphemistically as intensifiers in the same way (‘totally’, ‘absolutely’, ‘fantastic’, ‘amazing’), but no one seems to mind for some reason.

  • TabbsTheBat (they/them)@pawb.social
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    I spell lose as lose :3

    When I was learning english I used to confuse the spelling though, cause the word lose to me sounds like the same sound as the double o in other words :3. Though once I got used to the weird english spelling rules I fixed that problem. Now if only I could remember which way round desert and dessert are…

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      Everyone’s throwing out weird mnemonic with alliterative desserts… But it’s just “stressed” backwards.

      If you’re stressed, you should have some desserts to calm down!

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      Now if only I could remember which way round desert and dessert are…

      Handy memory trick on that one, the one you want more of has more S’s in it.

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      Now if only I could remember which way round desert and dessert are…

      My favorite deSSert is Strawberry Shortcake.

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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      Native English speaker here, lose/loose are tough ones.

      Looking at both words I could see how either one could be pronounced either way.

      Thanks French (I suspect)!

      It’s useful to keep in mind that written words are merely an attempt to record sounds, and when these spellings occurred these words were very likely pronounced much differently than today.

      • TabbsTheBat (they/them)@pawb.social
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        Neither word is of french origin, im pretty sure :3

        Anywho, yeah I know a large part of why english spelling is the way that it is is because of things like the great vowel shift, which came after the spelling standardizations, as well as the mix of germanic, latin, and french (norman) influences all coming with their own spelling rules (as well as one off words borrowing spellings from other languages like spanish), but as someone coming from a language with pretty consistent spelling where loan words are adapted phonetically, the whole mess of having to know the origin of the word to even begin to vaguely grasp at the spelling was an adjustment lol.

        I mean, the weirdest spelling related quirk in my native language is that we have letters referred to as “nasal letters” which are not in any way pronounced nasally hah :3 compared to english, it’s a walk in the park

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          Yes English is a complete train wreck of a language for multiple reasons, not just in terms of spelling and grammar, but every single aspect of the language. I do appreciate that it’s mostly non-gendered, but that’s just about the only win it has. English should have done what a few other languages did back around the 1800s and completely revamped how every single word is spelled to make it all uniform (and achieve a truly phonetic alphabet), but it’s kind of too late for that now.

          • TabbsTheBat (they/them)@pawb.social
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            As a non-binary person I do appreciate the ability to have non-gendered words in english :3 my native language has everything as male or female which is… Ugh

            Also funny thing about the spelling reform - we had one here in like… the 19th century, though it was not because our spelling had gotten vastly inconsistent or anything, the main thing that was changed was that a lot of sounds written with polish inspired digraphs (sz, cz etc.) were replaced by czech inspired š, č, ž etc… and also the letter ł which was also a polish influence was removed… which is fair, we didn’t really have a use for it. We also still have the digraph ch :3

            Either way, we used to often have things like old 18th or 17th century papers in our textbooks to read, and they were still perfectly readable with the old spelling if you knew those few changes, so it wasn’t a major change, though I do think it was a good one

  • Chiahna@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    I was actually corrected on this not too long ago, and I am happy to report that I now remember the correct spelling!

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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      You can.

      But with diet.

      As my bodybuilder friends would say - abs are made in the kitchen (for them anyway, rest of us fatties just get less fat in the kitchen).