Apparently there will be some boycott of PS in regards of decision to discontinue disks.
From 23 to 30 of August.
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A boycott with a deadline isn’t a boycott; it’s barely a demonstration. A boycott is until demands are met, no sooner. This is controlled opposition. If you want your demands met, don’t waste your time organizing for anything less than a real (full, indefinite) boycott.
Yep, and like with almost every other protest or “boycott” these days, it’s all performative. Most of the people “boycotting” will be online playing their digital games during that week, guaranteed.
That’s not true.
It’s much simpler, this tweet from one dude won’t have the reach to really make any impact. Awareness is the problem more than willpower, and it’s werid that we think anyone who “broke” the boycott was even aware to begin with. Or cares.
Not really sure what you were reading, but I specifically said that most of the people taking part in this boycott, however few, will break said boycott and play digitally bought games anyway.
And I’m saying that’s a bad faith statement, as if you know every single person who didn’t boycott pledged to boycott or even know of the boycott.
But that’s not what I said. Again, I said that those who have joined this boycott will still likely play their digital games on their ps5 during the “boycott”.
I quote myself:
most of the people “boycotting”
If you don’t know about the boycott, you’re not boycotting.
I’ve very clearly and explicitly pointed out to you twice now how you either misread or misinterpreted what I said even though it’s very clear. I’m hoping I don’t need to do it a third time because that would be sad.
that’s not what I said.
I’m saying you’re premise is flawed, unprovable, and simply bad. Does that get it through to you? You’re making unfounded assumptions and triping down doesn’t make it more correct.
Be careful, the dude above seems to be a shill of some sort for kernel level anti-cheat/DRM or potentially a large corporation. Or just a full on rightoid.
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Easiest boycott of my life.
This is easy for me because my playstation is gathering dust in my living room while i play my huge steam backlog.
I see these things and laugh every time. One week or even one moth is meaningless, you have to commit. Boycott until you see the change you want. I’ve been boycotting EA for over a decade now, still haven’t see any change but I feel better knowing I am not giving them money.
Yeah, are they going to stop after a week, stomp their foot, and tell Sony to knock it off?
I boycotted Walmart for years, realized I would never see any change, and continue to not shop there because Walmart sucks and my life is better now. If you make the change the goal, you are lining yourself up for disappointment. If you make doing business with companies congruent with your values the goal, you win if you last a week, you win bigger if you last a month, and you win the grand prize if they change or you leave and never look back!
Remember that screenshot of Steam group “boycott modern warfare 2” with almost every player with “in game: modern warfare 2”
I usually go months without using mine already. What would this even really do? They don’t make money on the system simply being turned on, and they might have reduced costs in their server bill if everyone stops using them for a week or two.
Everyone should try and log into their account at once, multiple times a day to ddos the thing. 😌
Lol the absolute fucking panic at the c suite when a discord server figures out the exact number of users it takes to do that and starts coordinating it every day.
I know it will never happen but it would be hilarious.
Should be one year at minimum , but knowing how game consumers behaviour through decade, i doubt they have the patience, this is group of consumer that spend their money on digital per order repeatedly while taking queue in blind morning for their favorite content excitedly, it is lost cause.
I don’t even own a PlayStation and haven’t since the PS3 but I truly hope Sony takes a financial hit on this one. Others such as Microsoft and Nintendo are paying very close attention to the results. If they manage to get away with this you know other consoles won’t be far behind them. Hell, they already tried around 2020 causing the start of the whole GameStop short fiasco. Now they’re trying to do it once again.
That being said, Sony doesn’t give a flying fuck about a blackout. You want to really hit them where it hurts? Dump them. It’s the only way.
Microsoft were going full digital next gen no matter what Sony did, as the next Xbox is a pc.
Nintendo will keep doing physical games for the foreseeable future as it’s much more necessary with handhelds.
If 10% of the physical game buyers convert to digital and stick around, it will likely be a net profit for Sony. I’d wager that number will be closer to 75% of “physical only” players just move to digital too.
They didn’t even boycott PS+ switching to paid online. I never paid for PS+. And never bought the PS5. Those who were already dissatisfied with Sony left, and those who stayed I doubt will stop buying Sony consoles even without physical PS6 games.
I used to be jealous of people with playstation back in the day, but now that i could afford one i have zero interest anymore. There’s nothing it does that my gaming pc doesn’t do. There’s no reason at all to buy a new one as far as i can tell.
This are the same cattle who pre-ordered GTA 6 so it doesn’t even matter.
I will continue not playing playstation, as I have for years. Fuck 'em.
Boycotts don’t have start dates. They happen as soon as someone says it happens and you’re either in, or you’re out.
Boycotts don’t have end dates. They happen until demands are met. If that means you never buy/do that thing again, so be it. If you’re not prepared to commit all the way, don’t participate.
Over time, the definition of “boycott” has been watered down to make people forget what makes a boycott effective. People have forgotten that the Montgomery Alabama bus boycotts lasted for literal years and saw people donating time and money to fixing up old cars, horse-drawn carriages, and carpooling to make them effective.
If you want real change, you have to be prepared to take real action. This one week boycott is pussy shit and won’t solve anything. If you’re gonna organize, do it for something that will work.
The boycott begins today. Right now. No more PS+ logins or payment. No more buying new games or consoles. No more anything that puts money in Sony’s pocket (buying used is fine, that money only goes to the reseller) and it lasts until Sony reverses its decision to stop printing physical games.
If we want to continue boycotting until they revise their digital licensing, we can demand that once we’ve made progress on the physical media. That’s what everyone cares about, so let’s keep the demands short and simple with that as the only one.
Couldn’t agree more!
Just cancelled my PS+ subscription with reason “other”.
I’ll see you all on the seven seas!
Wait so you’re going to stop buying physical PlayStation games and instead …. pirate pc games?
I imagine this is going to lead to a resurgence of the homebrew scene. Not sure if I’ll find games in the forest, or just get my fix watching a streamer long play the games I’m interested in.
No physical, no purchase. Period.
Technically pirated games can be put on a physical media and stored indefinitely, neither do those require online connection afterwards, so Sony cant just remove those and Sony won’t be getting any money or user metrics for it either.
While not a perfect solution, it’s a decent stopgap and will get more people on board than fully abstaining.
But the PS5 can’t play pirated games……
and instead …. pirate pc games?
Yeah PS5 games can’t, but PC games can be.
… can’t play pirated games yet.
Most important features of physical media are transferability (you can give the game to someone else and it will run) and autonomous access (you can run your game even if Sony or simply your Internet connection go down). Piracy typically checks both of these boxes.
It may not hold a collector’s value if that’s what you’re after, but I’d argue this is secondary anyway. And if you simply want to hold a bunch of game disks, you can always buy an empty disk and put the game in there.
Just FYI because seemingly no one appears to know this, but if your console is set as your “home console”, you can play all of your digital games offline, forever, on it. You can back them up to external drives, and copy them back over to the console at any time and play them, even in a nuclear submarine under the ocean.
The “home console” thing make it store all of your licenses locally, so there is no need to connect to auth servers ever on that console to play the existing games. I used to have every single game I own on Xbox backed up on external drives, but couldn’t be bothered after a while as I have no issues with internet.
If I lost internet for a bit and couldn’t play a specific game because I didn’t have it downloaded, I’d just play something else until I have internet again. That’s not something I lose sleep over.
The more I know!
but it makes those people feel good about themselves.
the reddit thing failed bc the blackout had an end date, so this will fail too
if yall want to make a noticeable impact then stop using playstation (or sony) services until they revert their decision
I thought that was the stupidest thing, the Reddit “blackout”. Company doesn’t care. It’s a metric. It’s a line on a graph. When stakeholders ask they’ll point to it and say “This was are anticipated backlash from the Q2 decision to ban 3rd party APIs, but as you can see we already recovered and have grown at our normal pace.”
I do want to give some insight. The reddit blackout did work technically. At least for me. I left reddit during the blackout and joined lemmy. Found it a lot better and remained. Letting people get a taste for not bootlicking a corp during a blackout is a small way to kick start a change.
Sure it might not get measurable change in the way the shareholders would change their mind, but every little discression against major corporations is a step in the right direction and I don’t think the people ITT should be shitting on people for trying to retaliate against Sony, albeit for a short time.
Good point. People are right that a week is unlikely to change much and we should set our sights higher. That said, you are also right that if we approach it with a “this is pointless and will fail” attitude, then no one tries the alternatives at all and the conditions that eventually lead to change will never develop. Best to participate, encourage your IRL friends to participate, and spend the whole week telling everyone who will listen about it.
With Nintendo doing similarly (with their cartridges simply triggering game downloads), I may never buy a console again.
As much as Sony is a dick ass company, these boycots are cringy as fuck and never achieve anything.
They’d work if people would commit to a full, indefinite boycott until demands are met. This “one week boycott” shit is controlled opposition pushing a narrative that a one week boycott is an appropriate response to something like this.
This one did earlier this month.
I feel like I should add while yes they removed the microtransaction, they did the absolute bare minimum they had to do.
I also feel like this type of boycott doesn’t match that type, the one you linked was a permanent boycott until the changes were done, not a week long one. People were straight refusing to buy it period till it was fixed, and people who did buy it was review bombing it.
For clarification: The issue was they implemented a massive XP grind that was reliant on you spending money to level your coach. At the same time they had removed the ability to make it easier to obtain the XP. They removed the microtransactions as a whole for that mode, and readded the previous games XP slider but removed the fastest mode and kept only a 1.5x mode, and didn’t rebalance anything else in the game, so you still have a game that was intentionally geared torward’s someone spending money to level, just without the ability to actually spend money to level. I’m sure some exec intentionally did that expecting people would complain and they could use it as a potential avenue to readd the transactions again as a “see we listen to our community”
I personally do think a boycott on sony will eventually do something, but a week long one like this, isn’t going to do anything meaningful.
Yeah, I don’t think the weeklong one will accomplish anything either, but I often see people talk themselves out of individual action because they can’t control other people’s actions. If we all stop doing that, it’s called collective action, and it works.
