• Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    I teach ESL, and this kinda shit in the English language drives me nuts. It’s impossible to explain. Just gotta know it. The worst is when you’re asking questions. “What’s this?” for single things. “What are these?” for multiples. HTF do you explain that you have to know to ask “What are these?” when you’re asking about pants or scissors. They’re literally asking what those things are. It’s bizarre.

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      16 hours ago

      Just blame the French for things like this. Your students will be like “Oh that explains it” and move on to the next nonsensical thing they need to learn.

      Every language has it’s “you just gotta know” moments. Like German. Not too hard until you start getting into technical reading and speech. Just how many words can you glue together? And why?

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      17 hours ago

      It is impossible to intuit, but you just introduce “pair of pants” as the singular article. Thus, two pants are “two pairs of pants.”

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        16 hours ago

        Which is fine for more advanced students, but for kids whose vocabulary and grammar are already very limited, it confuses things a lot.

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        9 hours ago

        Why is a pair of scissors separated in halves? Shouldn’t a pair of scissors be separated into 2 unit scissor?

        EDIT: so you would have 2 half pair of scissors? A pair of half pair of scissors?

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          4 hours ago

          Apparently this oddity has a term

          pants is an example of a plurale tantum—a word only ever used in its plural form

          But I don’t see anything makings sense of it