My recently widowed father (72) is planning a trip across the country to meet a woman who he claims called him by accident and with whom he has since built a romantic (remote) relationship. Here’s what he’s shared with me:
- He received a “wrong number” call from a woman that led to a number of other conversations online and on the phone that started to take on a romantic tone.
- He believes she is real because he has checked her out online, including validating that she is indeed the CEO of her company, is 40 years old, and is originally from Taiwan. Haven’t seen this myself.
- She says she runs this company with her brother in Canada and her father back in Taiwan. The details of the company were not clear to me.
- They have exchanged photos but not video because her webcam is not working.
- He is planning a trip to Los Angeles (from the East Coast of US) in a few months to meet her in person. She said her driver will pick him up at the airport.
- No money has been asked for or sent, according to him.
This is obviously a scam, right? But, without there being an ask for money I can’t figure out the angle and haven’t been able to convince him to disengage.
It is either going to be an ask for money to help her overseas family or a “can’t lose” investment in her company. I’m guessing she’ll back out of the travel plans last minute so they never meet OR he’s going go there and have his organs harvested.
Does anyone recognize this scam? What should we expect next? Has anyone else successfully talked their elderly loved ones out of one of these?
It’s a pig butchering scam. She won’t ever ask for money, she will just start drip-feeding “investment advice” that will typically direct him to an app in the Google Play Store (or Apple App Store) that is a full on fraud. Yes, they have complete scam/fraud apps in the legitimate app stores that look like legitimate investment apps (but sure Google, you have to block side-loading to keep your customer’s safe - fucking frauds all the way down…).
Your dad might already be on the hook for thousands thinking he is investing and making a huge return. The victim doesn’t know they are in deep until they try to pull the money out and find out it doesn’t actually exist. None of it. Not their “profit”. Not their original “investments”. He doesn’t think it’s a scam because he didn’t send her any money. He just thinks his new friend (or girlfriend) is giving him tips and he is investing with a “trusted” app from a “trusted” source - after all it is on the app store.
Get your dad watching Kitboga. Show him the Last Week Tonight segment on pig butchering scams (it’s on youtube). I don’t know what else to do, I don’t know if there are any legal avenues that can help or not, unfortunately, until he knows he is being scammed. If the idea that a 40 year old CEO absolute smoke-show woman wants to DATE a 72 year old widower retiree isn’t sending enough red flags to make him keep his walls up, it’s going to be a hard battle to convince him.