Idk i feel like most beaches this is pretty acceptable. In my experience if you walk further from the parking lot you get more seclusion and peace. IMO a reasonable volume on a speaker isn’t any more disturbing than kids playing which is expected at the beach.
the difference is the “i need silence” folk just want to get away from all the sound of humanity. which, cool, but you need to actually get away from humans to do that. we get you don’t like humans. some of us do. don’t expect everyone to accommodate you in public. it belongs to me just as much as it belongs to you, and you ain’t accommodated shit for me.
We literally never stop accommodating you. Are you being physically confronted over your music in public all the time? I doubt it.
We live in a populous world and the “I need loud music at all times” folk have absolutely no boundaries. There is nowhere to go where there is no chance of disturbance. Which is why it would be nice if some people would back off of blasting music in places of respite.
Looking at you, hiking trails within a two-drive from Seattle. It’s like being in a fucking shopping mall in the 90s, except now some people have bluetooth speakers hanging from their REI backpacks.
Yes, I am, about once a week, by people like you. Because they see a cane and someone vulnerable they can bully. The knife tends to make them back off.
People have been making music since before they were people. If you don’t like it, go back to under the sea
You seem to have some issues going on, and you’re projecting an awful lot of malice onto random strangers who don’t like someone else’s loud music imposed on them. I hope you work through those issues buddy
So like, if you start the conversation polite, maybe you’ll get polite responses. Making unreasonable demands on everyone (considering earplugs cost a few cents, and it is your responsibility to deal with your disability, not mine) is very polite.
So to summarize this conversation, I expressed that it would be nice if people stopped blasting their music in natural spaces. Then you projected a whole bunch of bad intentions onto me, expressed that you believe you have a right to rape everyone’s earholes, and that if someone dares suggest you not do that they are an ableist bully and you’re ready to pull a knife on them.
But I’m the problem because I’m being unreasonable and impolite.
Then you have the gall to suggest earplugs. The default state for people not blasting music is that they are not imposing on anyone. The default state of people blasting music is that they are imposing on everyone. How about you get some headphones?
I really wonder if there is any place outside of a concert venue that these folks find music on speakers acceptable? I kind of get it if they’re solo, just use headphones, but… hanging out in a group and listening to music together at the beach is about the most normal use of a beach trip I can think of.
I think it depends on the beach. If it’s somewhere with lots of other people, somewhere super accessible, then I kinda expect it. But if it’s a less populated beach, maybe one that’s more difficult to get to, I probably chose it in hopes of listening to nature.
I just got back from a beach vacation in a house we rented. Unfortunately I had to rely on a relatives speaker, so I could relax watching for no kids to drown.
Mostly played soft R&B, Blues, or anything downbeat at a lower level I could hear it over the sound of the waves and screaming children. But I was sitting right next to it and not blasting it from 100 meters away.
We’d also setup way early with no one around. I’d have the speaker rolling and the beach wasn’t packed. Yet people still setup really close to me on both sides.
At that point I figured they weren’t bothered. They would hopefully have said something because we talked to each other about the kids playing together.
So yeah there are situations, like everything else.
Probably only person I bothered was my Mother-in-law, because she is kinda racist and doesn’t like music made by darker skin people, but that I really didn’t give a shit about.
yeah, you pretty much get ten feet from the speaker and can’t hear it. beaches i go to at least, there’s lots of us little dorks sitting and drawing or reading or listening to music all quietly by ourselves, sneaking a joint whenever the kids are away.
or i assume. ain’t got kids so that’s what i’m doing when everyone else’s are in the water
Idk i feel like most beaches this is pretty acceptable. In my experience if you walk further from the parking lot you get more seclusion and peace. IMO a reasonable volume on a speaker isn’t any more disturbing than kids playing which is expected at the beach.
the difference is the “i need silence” folk just want to get away from all the sound of humanity. which, cool, but you need to actually get away from humans to do that. we get you don’t like humans. some of us do. don’t expect everyone to accommodate you in public. it belongs to me just as much as it belongs to you, and you ain’t accommodated shit for me.
We literally never stop accommodating you. Are you being physically confronted over your music in public all the time? I doubt it.
We live in a populous world and the “I need loud music at all times” folk have absolutely no boundaries. There is nowhere to go where there is no chance of disturbance. Which is why it would be nice if some people would back off of blasting music in places of respite.
Looking at you, hiking trails within a two-drive from Seattle. It’s like being in a fucking shopping mall in the 90s, except now some people have bluetooth speakers hanging from their REI backpacks.
Yes, I am, about once a week, by people like you. Because they see a cane and someone vulnerable they can bully. The knife tends to make them back off.
People have been making music since before they were people. If you don’t like it, go back to under the sea
You seem to have some issues going on, and you’re projecting an awful lot of malice onto random strangers who don’t like someone else’s loud music imposed on them. I hope you work through those issues buddy
the person demanding silence from the whole world says “you have issues” and doesn’t see the funny. which makes it funnier.
The person upset at being imposed upon by people doesn’t see the hypocrisy as they angrily defend their behaviour of imposing upon others.
The chip on your shoulder might be visible from orbit.
So like, if you start the conversation polite, maybe you’ll get polite responses. Making unreasonable demands on everyone (considering earplugs cost a few cents, and it is your responsibility to deal with your disability, not mine) is very polite.
So to summarize this conversation, I expressed that it would be nice if people stopped blasting their music in natural spaces. Then you projected a whole bunch of bad intentions onto me, expressed that you believe you have a right to rape everyone’s earholes, and that if someone dares suggest you not do that they are an ableist bully and you’re ready to pull a knife on them.
But I’m the problem because I’m being unreasonable and impolite.
Then you have the gall to suggest earplugs. The default state for people not blasting music is that they are not imposing on anyone. The default state of people blasting music is that they are imposing on everyone. How about you get some headphones?
I really wonder if there is any place outside of a concert venue that these folks find music on speakers acceptable? I kind of get it if they’re solo, just use headphones, but… hanging out in a group and listening to music together at the beach is about the most normal use of a beach trip I can think of.
I think it depends on the beach. If it’s somewhere with lots of other people, somewhere super accessible, then I kinda expect it. But if it’s a less populated beach, maybe one that’s more difficult to get to, I probably chose it in hopes of listening to nature.
Agreed, there are definitely exceptions I could think of, just speaking generally.
Often there’s people (esp. groups) who can’t be bothered with “reasonable”.
I’ve probably been guilty of that in the past…
I just got back from a beach vacation in a house we rented. Unfortunately I had to rely on a relatives speaker, so I could relax watching for no kids to drown.
Mostly played soft R&B, Blues, or anything downbeat at a lower level I could hear it over the sound of the waves and screaming children. But I was sitting right next to it and not blasting it from 100 meters away.
We’d also setup way early with no one around. I’d have the speaker rolling and the beach wasn’t packed. Yet people still setup really close to me on both sides.
At that point I figured they weren’t bothered. They would hopefully have said something because we talked to each other about the kids playing together.
So yeah there are situations, like everything else.
Probably only person I bothered was my Mother-in-law, because she is kinda racist and doesn’t like music made by darker skin people, but that I really didn’t give a shit about.
yeah, you pretty much get ten feet from the speaker and can’t hear it. beaches i go to at least, there’s lots of us little dorks sitting and drawing or reading or listening to music all quietly by ourselves, sneaking a joint whenever the kids are away.
or i assume. ain’t got kids so that’s what i’m doing when everyone else’s are in the water