Are friends just supposed to be like a TV? You talk to them when it’s convenient for you and you can’t think of something else to do?

I’ve just realized all the people I thought were my friends only talk to me on their schedule, when they feel like it. I’m left on read for days, meetings are ignored, text message conversations just end abruptly until they get back from vacation…

Is this it? Is this what friendship is? Because I don’t want it. I don’t want to feel like I have people to rely on only to find out that I’m just a convenience for people.

  • Libb@piefed.social
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    18 hours ago

    What you’re describing i snot friendship. Friendship is a rare thing, like love is rare. What you’re describing is just people you know and enjoy spending time with. Which is fine, btw, it is just not friendship ;)

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      18 hours ago

      Friendship is rarer than love for I’ve had many more long-term girlfriends than true friends. Unfortunately, being a romantic partner seems to be the only way to be a priority in anyone’s life.

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        7 hours ago

        You are right that in modern society it’s much harder to make and maintain friends. Really you have to think of it in terms of “closeness” or intimacy. Have you talked about only good things with these people? Or have you opened up about maybe some deeper or darker topics? Have you been to each other’s house? Have you helped each other do something important and difficult? Being a friend is almost like an imposition. You need to be able to rely on and support each other.

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        16 hours ago

        being a romantic partner seems to be the only way to be a priority in anyone’s life.

        I would say this may not be the ‘right’ way to consider the question. But it’s hard to explain, even more so in English. The aim should not be to be a priority. It should be to be valuable to one another.

        I know a few people but I’ve one friend. One, that’s it. We’ve been friend since we were kids (now nearing our 60s). We don’t live in the same country anymore and, naturally since we also both try to reduce our impact on the environment by traveling (a lot) less, we don’t see that often. Also, we both have our life(s), friends, and family. And that’s fine: we seldom meet, we even seldom chat like we used (spending countless night discussing philosophy and politics (we both are complete opposites on that matter) and spending countless hours writing to one another the moment we could not meet IRL anymore) but we are friends. We both know from experience the moment we need it the other will be at our door, virtually our in person depending the situation. To me that’s friendship: we don’t spend a lot more time with many other persons, but that doesn’t change a thing. I mean, we can and have put such or such discussion on hold, sometimes for a year or more and get back to it the moment the opportunity arise like if we had left it the night before…

        It is something we learned back in the 80s and 90s, before we had readily available ‘Internet’ and before everybody and their mother switched to email and later on to social networks, back when we had to use snail mail to discuss despite distance and wait for our letter to reach them, and wait even more to receive their response. Not just the two of us, many other people used to do that back then. Being patient and being fine with only getting a few minutes here and there and make the most out of those.

        like, I don’t (expect to) spend all my time with my spouse… 34 years and counting together. A liberty we both consider a key part in respecting one another’s. She has friends and activities I can’t be bothered with, like I have mine she can’t be bothered with. And we both are fine with that. We’re a couple but we remain two individuals that will do stuff on their own, including spending time with other people and having fun without their partner.

        All of that to say we should be fine not being the constant ‘priority’ of someone we truly care, and appreciate whatever time we can spend together, no matter how little.

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          15 hours ago

          I remember composing letters in college, just barely pre-internet. It was a lovely art. Next time I find a book of letter, I’m picking it up.

          I’m a regular contact type of person. This whole thing of “we don’t talk for years but then we have a phone call and catch up” is not for me.

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            15 hours ago

            I remember composing letters in college, just barely pre-internet. It was a lovely art. Next time I find a book of letter, I’m picking it up.

            +1 because I can’t do more :)

            I’m a regular contact type of person. This whole thing of “we don’t talk for years but then we have a phone call and catch up” is not for me.

            • It needs not be years, it’s just a way of speaking.
            • Like anything new, we learn to be good at it. Remember your first bike ride? Mine hurt. How you learned to write? Was it by writing an amazing poem in an not less amazing cursive or was it by clumsily tracing batons letters (and getting them wrong)? Me too ;) Remember how you learned to walk? Was it by running and winning a marathon or by falling, over and over again on your diapered bottom? That’s learning and that’s worth it. Bot saying you should do this or that, just that maybe it’s worth trying even if it’s not that great to start with ;)
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              15 hours ago

              Are you talking about the “catching up phone call”? I’m fine with those, but I go through a lot of things alone; and when I do, I don’t feel like those people who are not in contact are good friends.