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did_you_find_violets@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 1 day ago

freedom after speech

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freedom after speech

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did_you_find_violets@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 1 day ago
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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    You could replace the picture and name with that of another tinpot dictator like Trump, and it would still fit.

  • TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world
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    Freedom of speech does not mean the Freedom to be heard.

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    Idi Amin was a funny guy. Shame about all the other stuff.

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      Unconventional chef

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    Spanish constitution defines freedom of speech as “no censorship”. You can’t stop someone from publishing something but you very much can make them legally responsible for what they publish. Libel and defamation are still illegal under freedom of speech, right?

    • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
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      In Canada its not freedom of speech but rather freedom of expression when the expression doesn’t infringe on others’ freedom from hate which I’m so much happier with. Why the fuck Americans celebrate their freedom to be a nazi or whatever makes absolutely zero sense to me

    • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world
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      Hopefully I can cunningham’s law a more intelligent response, but libel and defamation aren’t “illegal” as in the police will arrest you for it, it’s a civil violation, so the target of that libel would have to sue you for it.

      Different countries have different bars for proving defamation. Famously, British media avoids calling drunk people drunk, and instead uses “tired and emotional” or similar, because if you say someone was drunk, but you can’t prove it, you are liable if they sue. Contrast that to the US, where if you sue someone for calling you drunk, you have to prove that they would know that they are lying.

      Both methods are subject to abuse, but since suing costs money, it’s more often a weapon of the privileged, so I prefer the US method.

      • yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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        it’s a civil violation

        Over here it’s very much a criminal offense, so this only applies to some countries.

      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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        In Spain people were also prosecuted for threats and promoting terrorism. One raper was sentenced to prison for praising ETA and insulting the King but he escaped to Belgium which denied Spain extradition because insulting Spanish king is not a crime there.

        Being prosecuted for insulting the King is of course stupid and this law should be changed but this and praising ETA are just more examples of this you can’t legally say in Spain. The law can’t prevent you from saying it but it can punish you afterwards.

    • Zwiebel@feddit.org
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      Yes, free speech is just about beeing able to voice your political opinion

      • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world
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        Not just political

  • agent_nycto@lemmy.world
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    This should be more shitpost-y. Have you tried a deep-fried filter and some mlg images?

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    Oh look, current UK policy.

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      Roight! Off ta gaol with ye lad!

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    Dark 😔

    • Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip
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      Literally 😔

      • Karl@literature.cafe
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        You’re not extinct?

        • Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip
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          Oh yeah… Sorry. I mean, 💀

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    That’s what the Pedophile of the US of America wants!

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    I meam that’s how it was after the founding of the USA. See the sedition act.

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    Clearly Idi Amin read Animal Farm.

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      Clearly not, since he was famously illiterate. But they say you are what you eat, so Idk Amin was definitely an intellectual

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        Damn, you got me at the end there.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_King_of_Scotland_(film)

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