• diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    How does nobody get this? The commenter isn’t saying “proposing without jewlery is wild” she’s saying “two people so broke they are making commitments to each other when they can’t even afford to spend some money on a simple tradition that’s been around for generations.” It’s the not being able to afford it part she is referring to not the jewelry itself

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      I get what you’re saying but also, shouldn’t poor people be allowed to get married if they want?

      It’s really inexpensive to get the paperwork done at the courthouse.

      Like, why try to gatekeep love behind physical wealth?

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        20 days ago

        Poor people can do whatever they want the point is if you can’t take care of yourself then your can’t take care of your partner and you shouldn’t promise anyone shit until you can afford to keep yourself alive after spending some money on jewelry

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          I think you’re taking a huge leap on what in all likelihood is some made up shit that not buying a ring = not able to care for one another.

          Anyways, I hope your day is going and goes well. Take care.

    • Jax@sh.itjust.works
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      20 days ago

      You don’t have 1.5-2k to drop on a fucking metal band that barely announces that you’re married? Shouldn’t be getting married, then.

      What a stupid take.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      We do get this, but we have differing opinions.

      on a simple tradition that’s been around for generations

      It’s a stupid and pointless tradition impulsed by a marketing agency.

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      So in her opinion poor people shouldn’t get married or have relationships? That’s some rather odd gatekeeping.

      If we ignore the useless traditions around marriage and won’t feed this overpriced industry. It’s completely possible to get married rather cheaply and it will not effect the marriage.

      I’m fairly sure that this particular marriage will last longer and be much better than many of the ones that spend completely insane amounts or even worse go into dept to get married.

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        The generous take might be that they’re just being realistic and blunt about marriage: historically and even in many modern social contexts, marriage is more an expression of resource security/stability than an expression of love.

        It’s not how we like to talk about marriage–the motivations, values, and ideals that make marriage meaningful… But sociologically, security/stability typically plays a pretty big role.

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        20 days ago

        i found a stunning ring on etsy that only cost 400 (the most i can spare for now)…there are options, and diamonds are overrated and i dont trust the “ethical sources” claims that big jewellers give

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          Only costing and triple digit numbers don’t go together in the same sentence.

          Marriage is just a legally binding contract, there’s nothing special about it. We don’t spend significant amounts of money when singing a NDA or employment contract or even just clicking “agree” in the terms and conditions contract.

    • OR3X@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      I encourage you to look at the price of engagement rings and wedding bands, homie.

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        I saw that when i was like eight years old and apparently you’re the only other person in the world who saw it because nobody acts like anything on the internet could ever be fake

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          It was the only cartoon that was on the minute I got back from school. With 4 channels available it was this, Bargain Hunters, some soap opera or the news.

          Arthur was not very funny or particularly interesting, but it sure beat out the alternatives.

          The theme tune has been stuck in my head for 30 years…

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          Yeah but also there’s the “nothing ever happens” crowd and they’re equally as annoying.

          I think in this case it’s a bit irrelevant anyway, the financial situation is irrelevant but clearly he is proposing in clearly he does have a kitten everything else is immaterial really.

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      I agree, but also, if you can’t afford a cheap ass ring, you probably can’t afford a pet. It doesn’t need to be something fancy. If you care about that tradition (not implying the person in the image does), you can get rings pretty cheap if you don’t need the whole diamond thing, and even cheaper if you’re willing to buy second-hand.

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        That was us. Our wedding bands were about that all in, and I got their engagement ring for about $125.

        I think everything we did for our wedding, rings included, was around $1500. The majority of that was booze.

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      We didn’t do rings. I worked in a chemistry lab, husband has a skin issue and wearing a ring would probably mean nonstop doctor visits.

      So we just didn’t have rings. It’s really very simple.

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        20 days ago

        I just really hate the feeling of wearing rings.

        If I was ever to get married (I won’t), then I wouldn’t have a ring.

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      I agree with you, but I’d say it’s a 50/50 toss up with women. Half of them would agree with us. The other half are too busy planning a 300k wedding on a 15/hr salary. Those types sometimes care more about the ring than the partner.

      I know a lot of women who would be thrilled to be proposed to with a cat.

      In the past, I’ve also known women who would be sour that they didn’t get a ring. I try not to know that type of person for long.

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        Thinking that 50 percent of women are shallow gold diggers seems a bit high. There are plenty of men who have superficial feelings about how they want their wife to look, but it’s nowhere near 50/50. Usually those gym bros and trophy wives pair up so they’re not really hurting anyone normal with their expectations.

        Personally, I wear a silicone ring. So does my spouse. Our rings for our wedding were a hand me down and a band with a non diamond stone. That said, it’s fair to want a ring. It’s fair to want the tradition, and it’s fair to be comforted by the idea that your partner has been thinking about asking you to merge lives for longer than just today. A ring used to mean more when women weren’t allowed their own bank accounts (actually very recently, in the scheme of things), but it’s still meaningful in a society where we’re taught (incorrectly) that men value non commitment, and don’t want to get “chained” to a “nagging wife.”

        Funnily, it’s guys who make comments like you (that it’s a total toss up whether any woman has an ounce of substance to her or if she’s a total bimbo who only cares about money) that make women afraid that men are not going to fully commit which is why things like a big unnecessary time commitment before the proposal seems romantic and reassuring

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        Those types sometimes care more about the ring than the partner.

        I have heard of them, “he hasn’t proposed yet so I left him” kinda thing. That guy was probably happy with things and completely unaware she expected anything to change.

        I do find it odd that when I have looked at posts about it before the vast majority of weddings seem to be super expensive or super cheap. Very little in the middle. Like 3 digits going to a pub for food or 5+ getting fucking everything.

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          We were sort of in the middle? Wedding dress was a prom dress from Debenham’s (70 quid), Edinburgh registry office, a few friends, 1 brother and the parentals. Afternoon tea at the Balmoral. Not cheap but not 5 figures either.

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            Ohh that sounds like a nice idea. Much smaller event but something nice.

            Not sure how much of my family would go, they are spread across different corners of the UK. Meanwhile my partner’s family is all packed into an area I can walk across.

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        20 days ago

        Honestly, propose to me with a new Akrapovic Slip-On exhaust for my Hornet 750 and a small ceremony near the water in the country with a moto camping trip as the honeymoon and I’d be in biker girl heaven.

        Could get away with the whole shebang for under $10k

        To be fair, that exhaust probably costs as much as most wedding rings anyway lol.

  • Maroon@lemmy.world
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    Man: Babe, did you know they discovered a new species of toad in the Amazon Forest.

    Woman: That is so incredible! We have to do everything in our power to raise awareness about conservation.

    Man: Great idea. Let’s use our pet cat " Toby" as the mascot.

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      Why wouldn’t they use the toad as the mascot? Instead they use a cat, an animal that has caused the extinction of multiple species?

      No no none of this adds up at all.

  • JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org
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    I really hate those pictures that just show some randoms with a sob story. I always feel that they are totally fake.

    (and if this is true: You can get cheap wedding rings. You do not have to pay thousands of money for them. You can get a cheap ring and that does work, too. Feel free to propose to the human you love even if you can’t afford some expensive ring)

  • Wilco@lemmy.zip
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    22 years of marriage here. Never bought, given, or worn a diamond in my life.

    Marriage rings are a marketing campaign created to sell you a piece of carbon that is so “rare” they put them on $12 drill bit sets.

    Yep. Yep. Different quality stones. Gotcha. Interested in buying a bridge by chance?

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      How much for the bridge? I would need a guarantee though that it’s actually used and not just buolilt on flat land in the middle of nowhere! I am no fool after all.

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      20 days ago

      natural diamonds, are indeed rare, in part because of the marketing campaign driving up demand for an completely useless use of them

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        They really aren’t, De Beers just had a cartel on the diamond industry and artificially restricted the supply to drive up prices. They have massive deep storage vaults filled with gem quality diamonds just so it can maintain pricing.

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      Yeah I’m not that far into marriage and I swear someday I’ll get around to getting a nice ring, but I currently wear a silicone one and my wife wears an heirloom ring from her family.

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      Carbon is the 4th most abundant element in the galaxy. Silicon is twice as rare, so maybe spend 6 month’s salary on a quartz ring instead? Either that, or save up for a down payment on a house. Nah, who needs a place to live when you can have a hunk of mineral, right?

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      Yeah, I’d agree. I have 3, and they’re little love bugs. But man, the vet bills can be a hard pill.

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    That he can’t afford it is a stupid assumption imo, this looks like a deliberate choice. Being responsible for raising and taking care of a kitten together is a much bigger commitment than wearing a ring.

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      Meh, it’s all fake af probably but the initial post says he was couldn’t afford a ring so if we’re going with it then yeah he is poor in this hypothetical.

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    Okay but why would he want to marry her? Maybe she has a trust fund or disability benefits he wants to mooch off.

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    While a cat will cost more on the long term, proposing with a kitten seems like it would be nigh impossible to turn down. Who says no to a kitten? I don’t believe it has happened in recorded history.