I have just watched this video and in it 2 things are said that made my Linux newbie heart sink:
- Debian 13 is not going to get the latest versions of Nvidia drivers and there are better distros for us.
- Debian in general is not meant to run on the latest hardware.
I am on a regularly upgraded desktop tower gaming PC and currently I have an Nvidia card and an Intel CPU (which, I know, even just because of the mobo chipset is not a great choice).
In this conditions and wanting to invest even more in gaming and new hardware in the future, what should I run on, instead of LMDE 6?
I knew which video you were talking about before I even clicked the link.
Don’t use Debian for a gaming PC. Period.
Stick with an Ubuntu derivative like Mint or Kubuntu. It’s your best bet.
If you want a gaming exclusive platform, you might want to check out Bazzite as well. But the *buntus are best IMO.
Don’t use Debian for a gaming PC. Period.
Why? I run Debian on my computer with absolutely no issues gaming.
Stick with an Ubuntu derivative like Mint or Kubuntu. It’s your best bet.
These are all derivatives of Debian in the end.
Debian in general is not meant to run on the latest hardware.
When I see someone on social media claiming Debian is unsuitable for gaming, I know immediately that they don’t know what they’re talking about. I’ve been gaming on different distros since before Steam ran on Linux at all, and on Debian Stable for nearly a decade. This includes my current system, which was built a few months after the GPU was released.
In general, Debian can run just fine on new (Linux-compatible) hardware. If you’re talking about Debian Stable and hardware that was released less than a year ago, then you might have to pull in a newer kernel and/or firmware, but it’s not hard. In most cases, it’s as simple as enabling Debian’s Backports repository and installing the couple of new packages that you need. (You might not even have to do that, since Flatpak and Steam provide updates to much of what games need, but it would be wise to remember Backports anyway just in case you need them some day.)
The main thing to consider is that it’s not completely effortless. It will probably require a little more setup than a game-focused distro would, so if you’re considering Debian for a gaming system, you should know why you want it. For example, maybe you want a very low-maintenance system once it’s up and running. Or maybe Debian’s focus on Free software appeals to you. In such cases, a few extra steps when getting started might be worthwhile. But if you don’t have a specific need that Debian fills, then another distro might be more convenient.
Debian 13 is not going to get the latest versions of Nvidia drivers and there are better distros for us.
I don’t know if that’s true or not. Nvidia has a well-deserved reputation for making their hardware painful on Linux, and although the situation is less bad today than it once was, it’s still not great. If you’re determined to stick with them, then sure, a distro that does the extra work of packaging all of Nvidia’s driver releases might be a better choice for you.
(For what it’s worth, I finally ditched Nvidia in favor of AMD GPUs, and have been very happy with the results.)
Just use arch. It’s a lot simpler than Ubuntu Fedora etc.
Occasional hiccups but nothing major.
I’ve run gentoo and void and tbh they were fine too, but more burden knowledge wise.
Debian and Fedora were always a chore to maintain. Major updates on Fedora constantly caused down time. Debian has no software and no ports like system which makes it difficult to get software.
Arch has most things packaged, decent docs a simple packaging system etc. The community is a bit mediocre but the os is pretty simple. Also what the steam deck uses FWIW.
Debian has no software and no ports like system which makes it difficult to get software.
Oh boy. So much ignorance concentrated in so few words. 😬
First of all, no, youre not a noob, the corrent Name for people who contradict their own statements in less than 2 minutes of reading their Text (first you say you run Debian, them you say you are running Mint, which are completely different distros), is A stupid dummy dummy dumb dumb. (Seriously, .ml mods, you either let me say the R word, or you insta block such braindead clumps of biomass)
Second, LMDE still has newer packaged than vanilla Debian, afaik
Third, did you not take a single look at debians Home page, before installing something you yourself call Debian? It literally States that it is a „Stable OS”.
Fourth, if you dont want to overwork your single braincell, just use flatpaks. They already have their own drivers in their Sandbox, so you should be fine.
Asking the others, since I don’t think you are up for a conversation with me: is it a wild guess to imagine that the high chance to receive this kind of comments is the reason why Linux doesn’t have a wider penetration on the consumer market?
I know the alternative of a call center slave from India for Microsoft is not exactly the most appealing, but anything is better than this, in my opinion.
I am in since a few months, as stated in one of the comments, and it is already the 4th or 5th time I get someone responding in this way.
For the most part its because most people who are in such Forums know way more about Linux than the Indian call center, and would much more like to think about real questions, such as actual comparisons between software and specific appliances.
The Questions you are asking had already been answered hundreds of times in other threads. There are whole megathreads about these Questions.
People have thrown hundreds of hours into writing Wiki pages so you can choose what distribution is for you based on literal essays, if not even longer, detailing the exact philosophy of every distribution, what it is for, what it isn’t for, and what to expect from it.
Yet you choose to disregard those works from people, instead deciding to ask for yet another Tl;Dr, because you just can’t be bothered to type your Question into searXng or Reddit or Kagi or even frickin’ ChatGPT, which would all be able to answer it.
No, not even that. You can’t even be bothered to do the bare minimum and offer actual information to the people trying to help you in their free time, making them have to painfully dig through your pile of horsecrap until they even understand what it is you want help with.
I’d recommend Fedora if you want stable and modern hardware support.
Isn’t Bazzite based on Fedora?
It is, and it’s amazing for gaming
Honestly I think the utility beyond gaming is totally undersold:
- automatic background updates ( system and flatpaks)
- ujust singular commands for common tasks
- All of what really should be mandatory software out of the box, including some huge QoL extensions
- Bazaar package manager
It really fixes a lot of Linux’s shortcomings, in my opinion.
Debian does not get the latest versions of anything. It is designed for, above all, stability, which means changes to the stable branch are greatly delayed while testing is completed.
You can always choose not to use the stable branch.
If gaming is your main goal. Bazzite or similar should likely be your first target. If you want a more desktop experience. I’d probably recommended vanilla mint. LMDE and Debian are great. But LMDE is a side project, that gets a bit less support and updates. And Debian is about stability over cutting edge anything.
Also worth noting that Debian’s definition of “stability” doesn’t mean “doesn’t crash” even in the slightest. It means “doesn’t change.” That means not changing broken software to be newer working software.
Any non-security bug that exists will stay because new software only ships for backported security updates. So if you have a crashing issue, Debian has no interest in fixing it until the next release. Unchanging is more important than working.
If you don’t have any crashes or bugs popping up, Debian is great, because it won’t introduce crashes or bugs. Nothing unexpected will happen.
By Debian’s definition, the Titanic is now VERY stable, unmoving at the bottom of the ocean.
This is not how Debian works … at … all.
Source: I’ve used it for 25 years.
I’ve been told plenty of times that when I had bugs that weren’t getting fixed that “stability means no unexpected changes, not uptime, compile the package yourself if you need it fixed.”
There are plenty of examples of upstream projects asking debian to not package their stuff because they get bug reports for things that were fixed months ago.
Debian does not ship bugfixes. Debian only ships security fixes.
If something works, it’s not going to break. But if something doesn’t work, it’s not going to unless you fix it yourself by going outside of the official packages.
That’s bollocks. Bookworm has received 11 point release updates, and they were definitely not only security updates. Read through the the 12.1 release notes, for example. “Fix playing of custom alarm sounds” does not sound like a security fix, nor a severe issue.
Security updates are released frequently, often just days apart, to individual packages. https://www.debian.org/security/
Point release updates (12.1, 12.2, up to 12.11) are released several months apart. They are thoroughly tested and verified to work together.
Debian is like that. Mature. The point releases are thoroughly tested for reliability, but the cost is that they can’t include bleeding edge software in the middle of the release cycle. The “stable” branch (currently Trixie) is always lagging behind, and the “testing” branch (Forky, next in line to become “stable”) will be frozen long before it is released.
You might want to try a rolling release distro. Arch Linux or something based on it (EndeavourOS, Garuda, CachyOS), or Debian Sid (the unstable branch).
I would recommend Nobara, Bazzite or PopOS for gaming; My personal experience with Debian is that it’s a great OS, but the focus lies less on cutting edge features or support of the latest hardware, and more on stability over everything else, and the desktop environment is more of an convenience feature - Debian is very happy as a headless server. If you want an OS with record setting uptimes, pick Debian; but for gaming you want to be on the cutting edge, and that’s simply not the case with Debian.
Regardsless what distro you end up with, do your research before bying new hardware. Any hardware, such as keyboard, usb bluetooth adapter or gaming audio headset might be unsupported or supported poorly, and require out-of-kernel drivers, firmware or propietary vendor software, that work only with some kernel versions or certain distros. There often are options that have great linux support and work with any distro, but you’ll need to find them.
Pick your prefered update interval between LTS, 6 month point release or rolling based on how much time you have for administration. If you need you PC also for work, a rolling distro might break just when you need it the most. After choosing the update interval, pick the distro with chosen update interval you like the most. Say you know and like Debian but need a rolling distro, then Debian unstable might be a good choice for you. You can also run multiple distros and dual-boot.
Special purpose distros such as gaming distros can be a good choice, but they often have less developer resources and tend to die then the few developers lose their interest.
Regardless of your choice of distro, spend some time to configure regular backups.
Debian is what you put on your grandma’s Facebook machine
To put it in a less elitist way: you can put it on a family PC for light entertainment or for things like homework for kids
To be perfectly clear: most people use their PC as a glorified Facebook machine.
(it also doesn’t have to be Facebook but the concept is the same)
I’m gaming perfectly fine on my Debian machine. Only one single time in years I had a problem with some custom tailored script from someone that linked as minimum a dependency that was newer than the version served in apt
This. My main rig runs arch and I do my heavy gaming there, but for travel I have a laptop running Debian, it has no problem running Steam and games via Proton. I’ve also done some light coding, even a bit of 3D modeling. It’s not basic, it’s bulletproof.
Debian is what you put on a system you want to work forever with minimal maintenance. Whether that be your Grandma’s computer or my headless server.
Isn’t Debian the FOSS-only one? Or am I misremembering?
I’m sure one can have their install that way but mine isn’t.
For fastest hardware support, you will want a rolling distribution like Arch (requires a do-it-yourself attitude) or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (complete out of box, but some quirks, like missing codecs requires manual work). Fedora also has decent new hardware support, not rolling so not as good, but same problem as OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. You can also consider derivitives like CachyOS (Arch, but has a nice installer).
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have OK new hardware support. Twice a year they release new “hardware enablement upgrades” to bring new support.
And worst is Debian. They don’t do hardware ennoblement upgrades at all. It’s something you have to do yourself by using backports. They bring new hardware enablement by default with new releases every 2 years.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Debian stable is not the same as Debian testing or Debian unstable.
You want to run bleeding edge hardware, you’ll need to run bleeding edge software, which you’ll find in Debian unstable.
Debian unstable and Debian testing aren’t meant for daily use, I’m not sure why you’re even bringing them up.













