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That crumbling column is actually so cool.
“The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire” by Gibbons.
The oldest ZZ Top is the best.
I swear the people who decide what ports go onto laptops have never used a laptop in their life. I know now manufacturers would love to just sell you a dongle add-on or two that plugs into your USB-C port and has all of the other useful ports on it you actually need, but even before then… who needed only 1 USB-A and two lightning cable ports? When was Mini-DVI relevant?
Back in the 90s, most laptops came with a docking station or had options to buy it separately that added any port a desktop had at the time. None of this is new.
I never had issue with ports on non-Apple laptops. I currently have 2 USB-C (one with DP), 3 USB-A, HDMI, Jack and Ethernet. Pretty good taking into account that there’s plenty of good USB-C dock available so you only need the extra ports when on the move.
blessed be the framework laptop, you can just put in whatever ports you want
My Lenovo Legion from 2021 has 4 USB-A, 1 USB-C, 1 SD-Card reader, 1 minijack, 1 hdmi and 1 ethernet. They’ve absolutely nailed what is needed, maybe except the SD-Card, but I can kinda see a use for that for some people.
I feel like you should shuffle some things around and make loss out of this.
At first I was angry when I read this (because I’m sick of loss), but then I thought it’s oddly fitting.
Man, I still lament their destruction of the aux (headphone) port. They destroyed that for the entire industry.
Did it? All of the laptops I’ve gotten in the past 5 years still have those ports. But I don’t buy Apple stuff.
Macbooks still have a headphone jack.
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The top looks like an m1 macbook, which has a 3.5mm jack opposite the two USB c
I love the destruction of the aux. It forced me to get a wireless headset, and I no longer have to bother untangling wires, or buying a new crappy headset every 2-3 weeks because the wires would break. Also, the quality of the sound in my wireless headset is waaaay better than any wired I ever tried.
Sure, they cost more, but the quality and convenience are so worth it, and I wouldn’t have done the switch if I hadn’t been forced.
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What is the conversion process for the audio?
You have to convert the audio to a bluetooth compatible codec like LDAC instead of just using the audio file which is in a format like mp3 with a higher bitrate. Compressing the signal can make the audio sound worse. (I would say bluetooth makes it sound worse for most situations but by how much is somewhat of an opinion question)
Thanks for the answer!
They’ve returned to fatter laptops with more ports. People did not like those thin MacBooks for a number of reasons.
The air is still very thin.
i have to deal with this with work laptops where i don’t get to choose, they gave me a thin one without RJ45 plug, and i suppose to be happy it is nice looking and sleek, but i rather it have beefy cooling
without RJ45
Just a reminder, requiring “Ethernet” may not make you end up with RJ45.
So of course I need…The dongle!
Yay vim!
What’s that stupid mouse sticker?
it’s not a mouse dude, is a weasel
I’m in the wrong subweasel.
First of all, how dare you.
I’ve refused a laptop and just use a desktop PC at work.
IT has been to our office recently and collected all the laptops. Everyone has complained that the laptops are working fine and are set up the way they like (Windows 11 capable too). IT says they have a lease contract with HP and the department doesn’t own the laptops, they need to be returned every 5 years for replacement.
I look forward to “old” office IT equipment showing up on eBay. 11th Gen Intel laptops are starting to show up on eBay for £200.
That’s how every place I have ever worked has been. We are on a 3 year cycle at my current place.
Someone should make a movie series of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Idk why yall are talking about this is clearly perpendicular
They’re emotionally parallel.
But now my OCD is triggered, thanks.
Don’t worry igotchu
messed up the colours because there’s an hdr bug on sharex & win10, someone please fix thatIt’s beautiful
I miss thicker netbooks. Easy enough to repair most things, and it had every port you could ever want.
I hate the new “ultra-light” fashion. Give me thick, durable, powerful, and ported!
the framework is basically the reincarnation of old thinkpads, including the business-level hideous pricing
I might be in the minority here, but I’m perfectly happy with the USB-C only setup. My work laptop is a Dell, but has the same design as that top Mac with just two Thunderbolt ports on each side of the chassis.
Headphones? Bluetooth. My machine actually has a headphone jack, which I have not used once since receiving it.
RS-232? That’s also Bluetooth, not as if USB-C to RJ45 serial console cables aren’t widely available though.
Ethernet? Well in the rare event I need one of those it’s more often going to be a Thunderbolt SFP+ adapter because most of my work is with fibre. In the rare event it is copper I’m quite often needing to use two at once, so would need at least one dongle even if the machine did have a port built in.
HDMI? Well you can buy a tiny adapter (about the size of a book of matches) that has a USB-C socket on one side and a HDMI plug on the other (about $13 on Amazon: https://i.imgur.com/iwmsa4L.jpeg). I already have to have a USB-C to USB-C cable in the bag for charging, it can do double-duty as a video cable.
The trick is to be smart about the dongles you do carry. The predominant style with a short cable terminating in a bulky body with whatever socket on it is almost always the worst style, sitting right next to your laptop getting in the way of whatever you’re trying to do.
The biggest advantage though is having USB-C ports on BOTH sides of the machine, so the charger can plug in on either side. I think people have forgotten how much it sucked not being able to do that. You’d be surprised how many machines that have a 50-50 collection of USB-C and other ports put all the USB-C ports on one side so they’re never in the location you need them to be.
Fully aware this isn’t going to work for everyone, but people really need to stop pretending like it only has downsides because that absolutely isn’t the case.
I agree with every point you made except the headphone jack, there are still plenty of wired headphones around, and the cost and size of having one in the laptop is negligible.
That is fair. I guess my statement was ambiguous but of all the things I’m least bothered by its inclusion. At this point in my life I’m not actually sure I still own anything that could plug into a 3.5mm jack though.
Also to keep the computer symmetrical you actually need a third hole to match the location of the Kensington lock slot on the other side :D
