No prices yet. I may never financially recover from this.
Only one company has apparently learned how to print money and not be ghouls.
Yeah sure I love their hardware and contributions to software, but I’d say profiteering off of children gambling for over 10 years is pretty ghoulish.
Valve and therefore Steam is still privately owned, never went public. No share holders demanding things surely is a major factor.
Privately owned still means shareholders. Ultimately it comes down to the board and the rules around it, not so much as to whether it is publicly listed.
I’m aware. Once Gabe retires or dies, I’m going to start distrusting Valve. Once they go public, it’s over.
To be fair, they say they made a lot of tradeoffs in the name of being price conscience, but they haven’t put a price on it yet.
conscious*
Thank you. Didn’t notice I screwed that up.
I’d say it’s priceless.
That’s a great deal, I’ll take the full set and throw in some extra controllers thanks
They have haptic grip sensors and ALL the sticks and pads, I wonder what they traded off lol
Their entire profit margin is pushing gambling on children
I mean, they get a sizable cut from the majority of games sold on PC. I think that’s their business model.
I hear you about loot boxes and skins and stuff. It’s just, that has to be a small part of their total profit.
Why does it have to be? It’s basically free money for them, whereas they have to make deals and curate their store front a lot more. Games take time and energy (if you don’t just want AI generated slop, at least), so to get that to market takes time. Whereas microtransaction garbage is basically hit it and quit it and generates insane amounts of money.
Um, no?
I guess this must be surprising to hear, but it’s just easier to sell content of actual value than bullshit. Yeah… some people will buy bullshit, and yeah, one can take advantage of those people, but having actual products is still a better business model.
But hey, if you’ve got these things all figured out, totally start your own game studio/global digital distribution system. Go make bank on microtransaction garbage.
Sorry, clearly you are far more knowledgeable about such things, despite having nothing more than I do to back it up. I apologize for contradicting your opinion on the internet, that was my bad.
Hey, if I’ve offended you, I do apologize for that, it truly wasn’t my goal. But I do strongly disagree (which is allowed).
And I think it’s pretty obvious that microtransactions could never, ever, possibly be more lucrative for Valve than selling games. It’s just a numbers thing. I mean, dlc can sometimes make more money than game sales for some titles, that’s a fact. But Valve has what, a dozen games that they could potentially sell dlc for? That’s a pretty hard limit. Whereas they also make money on every title sold in the store, and there are currently over 10,000 titles available from the steam store. That’s just like, a lot more than a dozen…
Any data to back that claim? I thought most of their income is from Steam and games(including those with pushing gambling on children) is a very small share.
I posted this in the other thread, but wanna share here too:
Most interesting thing to me is the Frame apparently runs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and is using SteamOS, implying official ARM support for SteamOS, Steam and Proton! Could mean steam and proton coming to android too.
It is fascinating and a huge step, but I want to keep expectations low. It will work, but it will not be as compatible as x86 Proton, not at all. It is first and primarily an OS for streaming games and running VR. That is the VR rendering from the streaming computer, not the VR game itself. In other words, they only had to get exactly one app to run well enough for public use. According to the developer, it is working with a surprising amount of games. I agree, one game is surprising, but trust me when I say you will not be running Windows x86 games in ARM Linux for a long time.
I think that for running games locally on the Frame, for anything other than games designed specifically to be gentle on a battery — and many games are not, unfortunately — you’re also really going to need to leave it plugged into a powerbank. The internal battery just isn’t that large relative to what the device can draw.
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/steam-frame-specs-availability/
The battery included on the Steam Frame is a 21 Wh model. The Snapdragon system-on-chip gobbles up around 20 W at full power—that’s how much it’ll likely use while playing a game locally in standalone mode. From this, we can expect around an hour of playtime without additional charge.
I want backpack sized battery banks.
You could probably put a 400 Wh powerbank in a backpack (search for “power station” on Amazon).
Attach a decent rumble pack and you have total immersion in your military/adventurer game!
It’s using an x86 compatibility layer, pex i think it was called. So apparently you will be running windows x86 games on it.
Edit: fex! https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX
Edit 2, from tom’s hardware article:
The company also showed off the x86 version of Hades 2 running standalone (as in not streaming from a PC) on the Steam Frame. And the game ran just fine and looked good at what Valve reps told me was 1400p in a window inside the headset
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Steam/Proton on android would be quite something, I would finally be able to play something decent on my phone that wasn’t originally released for the PS2
I’m still a little curious how that will work for games. Are they going to somehow emulate Win32 amd64 games? Do devs have to recompile them in some new way? Will engines support it beyond Unity and Unreal?
It was mentioned in the LTT coverage. Aside from native ARM games they have a translation layer(FEX) to play x86 games on ARM. They’ll have a “Verified” tag like the Steam Deck for compatibility. I assume you’ll still be able to force trying to run unverified games.
Edit: FEX is not a Valve thing, but an existing open source x86/x86_64 emulator that Valve is using. It’s not clear if they’re forking it or directly contributing though.
That same video says that “Valve has heavily contributed to FEX”
Well, that shows how well I was paying attention to the video
The Frame isn’t playing the games on its ARM chip. It’s just streaming audio/visual data from the PC and relaying the controller inputs back to the PC.
That’s the normal mode of operation, but it can apparently also run games locally on the Frame itself, which I guess gives people a portable — if less powerful — gaming option that they can haul around easily if they want.
Hm, guess I missed that part, my bad.
Yup, FEX to translate x86 to ARM.
And the base would be Arch Linux ARM, right? So that should see an uptick in development too.
Arch Linux has been implementing a build system for other architectures. Perhaps they’ll make ARM official by the time Frame comes out.
If I remember correctly Valve paid for this build system specifically for ARM support, so yeah I think that is going to happen.
Jeff Geerling is probably having a fit right now.
what does that homophobic ass have to do with it, is he not a fan of ARM or something?
…wat.
I think you must be thinking of some other Jeff Geerling. The one I’m talking about is probably the #1 guy on Youtube for content about ARM stuff, and AFAIK isn’t a homophobe.
Your comment doesn’t make any sense because, even if you were talking about the right person and your accusation were accurate, why would you know some obscure thing about him while being unaware of the thing he’s famous for?
Going back roughly a decade you can find blog posts and some bits on Twitter. I don’t see anything outright gay-bashing but his moral worldview, when he speaks on the matter, seems to be shaped by his Catholic faith. I don’t think he hates homosexuals, and I can’t guess at how his beliefs effect others (who for, or how, he votes and such), but he certainly seems to have a moral opposition and hasn’t since stated otherwise that I am aware.
If you need a smoking gun, here’s a quote from Twitter around 2017. Context is that this apparently stemmed from the removal of developer Larry “Crell” Garfield over “Gorean” (?) beliefs or participation in that subculture. Relating to some BDSM, male-domination, female slaves “Gor” novel series, that I cannot be assed to dig deeper into, and concerns he’d carry the “misogyny” into into the workplace. Anyway:
The Drupal community is treading perilous waters right now. Risk of excluding more members than just Crell. Careful with moral equivalence! It’s a heck of a lot more nuanced than that. But basically, if the criteria for being part of the Drupal community anymore is “Must both publicly and privately support Gay marriage, etc.” then… I think I might be excluded.
As an atheist looking in, I find Abrahamic faiths fundamentally incompatible with homosexuality. Having a gay Christian marriage, for example, is an absurdity to me. To be clear I’m not personally opposed to it. I find very much wrong with his faith but I don’t believe Jeff is wrong about his faith. But kudos and power to whoever wants to lie to themselves and retcon Christianity in order to believe (what I perceive to be) a bigger, more comforting lie. If we can keep eroding at it maybe we’ll finally get over the hatred and hangups it causes, or at least no longer be able to point to it as a justifying source.
Well, that’s unfortunate re: Jeff, but it’s still weird to me that the other commenter would be aware of that about him (which you mention having to dig through a decade of blog posts and old tweets to find), without at some point also finding out that he’s ‘the Raspberry Pi guy.’
It’s like knowing that Hitler was a vegetarian but somehow not knowing that he was the dictator of Germany who started WWII – it just doesn’t make sense for a fact to be that isolated from its context.
A bit odd I suppose, but he’s also “The ansible guy” and a solid “proxmox/truenas” guy. It’s not unlikely they could’ve become aware of him looking for information on automation or virtualization. That’s actually how I first came across his content. The Pi and other hardware reviews are okay but I care more about the how-to’s and what I’m actually running on my toys over the toys themselves.
Anyway, I didn’t dig real deep but I’m not ready to nail him to a cross. I’ve met Christians who “don’t approve” of whatever while simultaneously acknowledging someone else doesn’t need their approval in the first place to be who they are. That it isn’t their place to thrust their moral beliefs upon others. Not to say I don’t still find their worldview problematic either, and their level headedness is being drowned out by Christofascist rhetoric as of late, but time is still sanding the edges off their faith and it remains light-years ahead of other parts of the world.
I know Jeff does raspi stuff. I know about his colostomy. I’ve used one or two of his scripts and took some Home Assistant motivation from him. I liked his gentle sounding voice and mannerisms until I learned he’s a religious freak.
I know Jeff does raspi stuff.
Then why’d you ask if he’s not a fan of ARM? Were you unaware that Raspberry Pis use ARM CPUs?
I’m not trying to defend the guy or dispute you, BTW; I’m just still confused about why you’d say that.
No, I know exactly who I’m talking about.
I’m pretty sure there are genetic dispositions towards different kinds of sexual behaviors and patterns—just as there are genetic dispositions towards such things as alcoholism, racism, elitism, etc. A genetic predisposition towards homosexuality does not make homosexuality a ‘good’ or a ‘right,’ or even ‘okay’ for some people. Just as with every other human behavior, a wider worldview must be used to judge the righteousness of a human action or behavior—including acting on homosexual tendencies.
https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2011/exodus-app-–-pulled-app-store
That whole article reads like he was a reasonably intelligent person who was born into a christian family. So he’s been conditioned to automatically see homosexuality as bad, and been educated in writing eloquent arguments to support his position, but he’s just aware enough to not take a stand and actually say what he thinks because that would get him in trouble.
Even just considering your snippet:
I’m pretty sure there are genetic dispositions towards different kinds of sexual behaviors and patterns—just as there are genetic dispositions towards such things as alcoholism, racism, elitism, etc.
This is just an opinion and the logic seems sensible. But why make the comparison to only negative traits and vices?
A genetic predisposition towards homosexuality does not make homosexuality a ‘good’ or a ‘right,’ or even ‘okay’ for some people.
Stating the obvious then referring to 3rd party opinions. Doesn’t seem to do much other than keep up the negative tone.
Just as with every other human behavior, a wider worldview must be used to judge the righteousness of a human action or behavior—including acting on homosexual tendencies.
Whoa, I agree! And using my view of the world and society at large I hereby judge that we need to lay the fuck off of people who act on their homosexual tendencies and focus on actual problems! I wonder if the author can say the same.
Also, I just want to point out and give a “fuck that” to the heavy focus on “choosing” and “acting” rather than simply existing. In my experience that is a very common step in the short process of dehumanizing somebody and mentally writing off their concerns and rights.
Dehumanizing somebody for a trait they were born with is obviously doable, but it is still a tougher sell for some people than dehumanizing a person for an intentional act. Even if that act didn’t hurt anybody or anything.
I’ll leave the whole train of thought of “how can you punish people for acting like the thing they were born as” as an exercise for the reader.
As homophobic as this indeed is, it’s also from 2011. As a pansexual trans woman, I’m pretty sure I might have sais some very transphobic/homophobic stuff in 2011 as well, thankfully I was not posting it online.
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but I respect that you may not be inclined to do that. I have possibly too much faith in humanity.
But also, let me say this : acting on your homosexual tendencies is pretty damn righteous 😎
Oh shit he’s homophobic?
Yikes
I’m disappointed in the screens they used but it unfortunately makes sense that 4k microOLED isn’t feasible. I wish the new controllers supported Lighthouse tracking too. If the new controllers really are proprietary to just this single HMD that’s a big failure in my opinion.
The only other major PC oriented inside-out system, Windows Mixed Reality, allowed controllers and headsets from all brands participating in the program to freely intermix. I’d doubt Valve would be dumb enough not to also follow this path, if there are ever successive iterations of this hardware.
Been waiting for a competitor to the meta quest. Looks like my patience has paid off. I hope it’s not too pricey/compromised
Why did I buy a PSVR2 with the pc adapter three weeks ago …
So you could sell it now !
I appreciate the assist lol
“The Frame headset won’t be priced higher than the Index”:
Yes but which index ? The headset alone is 540€, but the full VR Kit is 1080€
Dont get me wrong, I’m still going TK buy it if it costs 1080€, but I will be annoyed, and very sad for all the kids who will still have to sell their soul to Meta for a while…
I really hope it’s ~500€
Lets fucking go! This lineup looks sick.
Finally! I’ve been holding out for years waiting on steam to release a new VR set, time to finally get one!
This is so fucking good for linux gaming
Hell yeah! I have an upgrade path for my original Steam Controllers!
I loved it on the Wii with attached nun-chuck, having my arms both facing out feels more comfortable then in, when witting with a controller. Now you’ll have a full set of inputs to go with it, very cool!
I really hope that we can buy the Frame controllers separately. Playing Twilight Princess on the Wii with one hand behind my head and the other resting on my lap was the most relaxed gaming experience I’ve ever had. Miles away from the crazy flailing about that haters would describe Wii gaming as.
I just like that they have the complete compliment of normal controller buttons. It seems the world has agreed on twin sticks, a d-pad, ABXY (or triangle square cirlce et cetera, you know what I mean), and two shoulder buttons… Except for VR controllers. Every brand has their own dinky layout and they’re all sparse on buttons, I guess not to “intimidate” newbies, but it requires making weird compromises or binding actions to directions on one of the analog sticks or something, and that always feels lacking.
I hope they also stole the idea from the OG Oculus controllers where it can sense when your fingers are on the buttons but not pressing them, to so they can show your fingers in VR space and help people work the things by sight as well as feel.
The Index controllers have touch-sensitive sticks and actual finger tracking so they measure how far your fingers are from the body of the controller. They put touch-sensitive sticks on the Deck as well.
Bit disappointed to see only 4 tracking cameras. Willing to bet tracking is gonna be horrid when at waist level still. That’s an issue that has been plaguing VR headsets with inside out tracking since the beginning, and it’s frustrating it looks like they still didn’t bother fixing it on a headset that almost certainly isn’t gonna be cheap to start with
Valve’s strategy here seems to be to build physical inertial tracking into the controllers as well. They both have an IMU built in which presumably gives them a pretty decent ability to guess where they’ve been moved in physical space even if they’re outside of the cameras’ field of view. I don’t know if anyone has accurately assessed how well that works in this case.
My old WMR controller had that too, but it only tracked for a few seconds before losing the controller location again because it eats battery. And that’s with 2 AA’s. Unless this one is newer and super efficient, on one battery, I imagine it’ll run into a similar problem to not have them die in only a couple of hours
Glad to have sold my Index this past summer. Prices are gonna plummet once V.2 comes out
NGL the cube thingy looks so damn attractive to me, especially as I don’t own any form of PC gaming…
Now please Steam, officially sell to Mexico god damn it!
I’ll buy you one and sell it. You gotta pay shipping to send it across the border. If the thing breaks, send it back to me in the U.S. and I’ll file a warranty on your behalf. I’m just a dude who wants other people to play games and have never done something like this before.
Dm me if you are interested.
This is (literally) the way a gamer should be. Cheers!
Someone else in here commented on how it took a while for the Deck to come to his country.
I almost asked him, but since you’re the second one…I mean…wouldn’t you be able to just get a Deck or a Steam Machine or whatever from anywhere and use it?
It not being available to purchase directly from Steam means you have to get it from a 3rd party reseller, or order it to an address in an officially supported country and forward it from there yourself, both of which are generally more expensive than what steam is offering. The cheapest price I can find for a Steam Deck OLED in my country is a solid 20% more expensive than the price Steam lists on their website.
Ah, gotcha, so it’s middleman overhead. Thanks.
No warranty in unsupported countries, and from what I’ve seen of Valve’s quality control you probably wouldn’t want to risk that.
and from what I’ve seen of Valve’s quality control you probably wouldn’t want to risk that.
Wait, what? Care to expand on that?
I didn’t even want to engage with a non official purchase of the Steam Deck yet for what has been already established here, and reading this kills the excitement even further 😅
My Deck definitely had its fair share of hardware issues when I got it. Ended up getting a replacement for a faulty GPU, but the WiFi card also had its issues and kept disconnecting constantly. It was a first year LCD Deck though, so maybe they’re better now. I also used to be in a Steam Deck discord and the number of users reporting hardware (and software) trouble seemed fairly high there too.
Valve sorta makes up for these issues with above average customer service, but in an unsupported country I’d for sure avoid early adopting their hardware.
My Index has never been reliable. Not the headset, nor the controllers. I have given up using it.
So this is the “Extend” step of PC gaming control by Valve. We’ll see how open the Steam ecosystem will stay.
They’ve released a version of every one of these before. Steam Controller, Valve Index VR set, a line of Steam Machines some time ago…
Im currently playing a game from Epic on my Steam Deck, I’ve recently played games from GOG, and of course Steam. The biggest drawbacks with non-Steam games are having to go to the desktop to install them, and not having my time in big picture mode tracked for those games. So, not seamless, but exceptionally playable. I’ve even customized button maps for non-Steam games, and also had to do nothing at all to have them work well.
If Steam keeps extending like this, people will stop buying Windows for gaming. I will acknowledge that my gaming requirements aren’t as extensive as some, and I’ve never installed Fortnite or Roblox for my own use.
EDIT: Now, when Steam updates, sometimes that breaks the plugins, but once they are updated, it shows my Play Time again. It may not stay updated depending on you playing those non-Steam games, but I just like a general number. Even some of my PC desktop played games are wrong on the time (pause menu to get up to do something for awhile while leaving the game running.)
There are some Decky plugins for the Play Time issue you are describing! I have over 300 hours logged on ES-DE (EmulationStation Desktop Edition) that was installed through EmuDeck.
I am not currently with my Deck, but I can find the actual name for you later if you need it!
Interesting, I’ll have to look it up. Not having times isn’t world-ending for me, but I do like having them. And achievements are nice, too.
I was hoping to find a better page to share than this, but time is limited. Here is what I assume is the proper website to at least see what plugins they support. For what it is worth, I use:
CSS Loader
Pause Games
Audio Loader
Memory Deck
Animation Changer (my favorite of all of them)
SteamGridDB
PlayTime (The one I think you are looking for!)Off topic, but I also use Synchthing (not from the Decky plugins) to get my emulation game saves all in one area, then onto my server, which is then uploaded to my cloud provider for access across all my devices. :)
If Steam keeps extending like this, people will stop buying Windows for gaming.
Good for those people. Unfortunately, Windows has other use cases outside of gaming, and I’m not planning to switch to Linux because it won’t be able to cover those for me.
I just don’t want to see something like “Half-Life 3, built first for Steam Hardware” in an announcement five years later, and ending up having some issues on Windows because that was not a priority. So far, Valve only keeps improving their platform to hook everyone on the Steam ecosystem, but we can’t be sure of their next steps. No one is immune to increasing profit margins, even Valve.
Sometimes I think about how LOATHED Steam was when in launched. That was probably valid even. Still, it feels worth noting that Valve is maybe THE only company from my childhood that feels like it largely stayed true to its spirit, or whatever.
If Valve went DRM free like GOG, I would have no reason to ever buy games anywhere else
(apart from exclusives, which should be illegal IMO)
because most people got exposed to steam’s launch on HL2’s launch. Where they bought the physical game, came home, installed it off like 5 CDs… then had to run steam to decrypt it and download more files because the fucking install was encrypted, and the goddamn fucking decryption took like 8 hours if you didnt have the worlds greatest computer.
Nope, I’m still totally not salty about not being able to play the game I fucking bought until the day after cause bullshit encryption fuckery, why would you ever think that.
I still have that goddamn box somewhere… i need to dig it up and see what release retail HL2 is like compared to HL2 you’d downlaod today from steam…
Well, I bought Half-Life and OG You Don’t Know Jack on discs at Target, then had to return them because HL didn’t run and YDKJ was “too worldly.” So.
They have good PR and fanboy propaganda. They’re every bit as evil as every game company out there. Steam fans just got tricked into thinking Gabe was THEIR billionaire and steam is THEIR billionaire corporation, and they can do no wrong. No other game platform has a fan base as aggressive and hostile when you point it out
The downvotes seem to agree with you…?
Why does everyone here Yuck other peoples Yum? You aren’t forced to buy them
The irony of this being your previous comment
If billionaires and corporations are your “Yum” i don’t want to know you. Sucking Gabe dick isnt a hobby, unless it is for you
Technically no PR. Their MO has been to let others do the work. Their games come from hired modders, with many skins made by the community. Their localizations are from the community. The game devs and publishers have to moderate their own spaces on Steam. The players do product promotions by using the social network of Steam. Valve is practically unreachable for the press, and their actual press releases are the rawest I’ve seen: infrequent, featuring no images and little information. Their press account is run by Kaci Aitchinson, the local Fox News host who was originally hired to present The International for Dota 2, but ended up doing a bit of everything, like many at Valve.
I remember being annoyed that I had to install yet another launcher and make yet another account when I was installing portal. But I didn’t know at the time that this was the launcher to end most other launchers and accounts, or at the very least made most of that transparent other then adding an extra click to launch some games.
Iirc, Blizzard had just replaced the wow in-game patcher with a launcher (though I don’t recall if they had a unified launcher for each game, if they all had their own at that point, or if it was just wow), Oblivion had a game launcher, and I think there were a few others. Some of them even needed to be installed separately iirc.
Steam is nice because, being the launcher for most of my games, it’s just always open and helps organize my games. And it doesn’t feel like its main purpose is to make money, with everything else just being about opening pathways to that money. And even though it is meant to make Valve money, it’s the lack of blatant dark patterns and constant upsell attempts that makes it feel better than most of the rest of the commercial world.
I think its because there’s likely more people who got into Steam after Steam was already a pretty popular storefront so clueless about the growing pains. My first ever PC game purchase was from the Steam store and that was maybe back in the 2010s.
So those going on about days of CDs or whatever are talking to a generation that had already moved onto digital.
It basically didn’t add any value to the experience. We just wanted to play CS, and steam just got in the way.
I was one of the haters when it first launched because I was on dialup at the time and physical discs I bought were forcing me to install steam AND THEN install a massive patch that did not work on dialup. My first day playthrough of Skyrim was ruined because of that. Took a week for that shit to download even though I went physically to a store.
But now Steam is the last man standing between us and corporate greed.
But now Steam is the last man standing between us and corporate greed.
Man how quickly people forget what things were like before the lawsuits forced valve to make steam more consumer friendly and regulatory abiding…
When was that?
People who came to Steam later on probably don’t realise that when it was new it barely fucking worked.
Downloads crawled, games refused to launch because of authentication issues, friends/chat was offline for literally months, etc.
The only reason it became widely adopted was because Valve forced you to use it if you wanted to play the latest CS or, later, HL2. Everyone hated it.
I only got Steam when HL2 released because I had no need for it before then. I don’t remember having any real negative feelings about it.
This is true but this was also done at at time when all of these things were unprecedented. Valve was blazing a trail with Steam and digital distribution and there was nothing else even close.
friends/chat was offline for literally months
Friends lists didn’t work reliably for years.
It was pretty janky. I received a download code for Half Life 2 in the box with my Radeon 9800 Pro several months before the game was actually released. I didn’t have a lot of use for Steam before then, but I installed it anyway and my account is so old that back when the account IDs were still numeric and sequential, mine was four digits.
What if he really wanted to make it up to you? Is there anything he could do to apologize?
Yeah he could hand over a couple billion dollars, that would make up for it.
HALF. LIFE. FUCKING. THREE.
Exactly. How tf do you propose to get it if you digest him? You’ve hit on the crux of the issue here.
Hello, Veteran Steam User (made my account the day steam released, I was big into the half life/cs/tfc scene back in the day), steam was HORRIBLE when it released. I had a cable modem way back then and it was incredibly slow. Only the ugly green theme, and crashed all the time. It was only used as DRM, not as a way to catalogue games. I clung to those WAN servers up until Valve no longer supported them, it was a sad day at the time.
I still remember the pissed-off memes, novel-long outrage threads, etc.!
I just paid $20 for a physical copy Counter Strike, and I find out I need to install an additional launcher and make an account to play the game I just installed. It’s the principle of the thing!
It happened to me (with blizzard)…and it will happen to you!
A lot of companies turned to utter shit over the years but Blizzard hit me the hardest I think.
Oh my god, my wallet is in trouble haha
Better start saving now!
Saving what?
Oh SNAP
The controller is exactly what I wanted. Take a Steam Deck, cut out the middle, glue the grips back together. Take my money.
And even then there’s some nice QOL features like capacitive strips on the grips.
Steam Dk
