And for lemmurs to stop being so binary and assuming every discussion is a war zone. Defend a Jewish person and you’re a fascist. Defend a Palestinian and you’re anti-semetic. Make a ‘whore’ joke and you’re a misogynist. Criticise capitalism and you’re a tankie. Accidentally and innocently misgender someone and you’re transphobic. Defend trans folk and you’re woke. Its all so bloody exhausting.
Real talk though, the militant Linux stuff is what really pushed me away in the end. I am legally blind. I literally cannot use desktop Linux due to lack of accessibility, but somehow that’s my fault.
The never ending politics stuff is exhausting, sure, but at some level I can understand why people are passionate about it. The “FOSS or die” mentality just short-circuits my brain. Software is a tool, like a hammer or a screwdriver. If it works for you, more power to you, but it as often as not doesn’t work for me.
That sucks, and I’m sorry you had that experience. To provide a viewpoint for your short-circuit, the FOSS software is a tool, yes, but the FOSS movement is politics and philosophy. To them (us, but I like to hope I’m less of a dink) software made unethically is similar to advocating for socialism or unions as a means of empowering the people against forces that would oppress them. For some people, using proprietary software might be like using products made by slave labour.
Some people who are more puritanical than myself might refuse to use anything that they can’t use freely, the equivalent of you obstaining from using a laptop at all if Linux doesn’t work for you. I think most people, myself included, would consider that extreme, but I bet you’ve heard from those extremists.
None of this is meant to excuse the people who’ve been crap to you, you should do whatever you need to. I’m just trying to explain why people get so worked up about it compared to a screwdriver. Or a hammer, say. A hammer and a sickle, even…
I was on the cusp of leaving Reddit just before the API fiasco, and Redditors treating every interaction as combat by rhetoric, a contest rather than a discussion, was one of the main reasons.
Yes, that happens here, but it’s, like, the same two or three people every time. For several of your examples, particular usernames come to mind. The background vibe is much more chill, I feel.
I don’t think any of that is Lemmy Official Opinion. it just shows there are all kinds of people here, some of them maybe a bit too sensitive in their topic.
This person just said they would like to be fascist anti-semetic misogynist tankie and transphobic without catching shit for it. In the old days of the internet, we definitely would have told them to shove their head up their ass
The sad part is that the centralized platforms that are popping up and adopting anti politic stances are feeling much friendlier. People here complain about centralized platforms, but all the fighting is ironically just pushing people over to those platforms.
More users.
And for lemmurs to stop being so binary and assuming every discussion is a war zone. Defend a Jewish person and you’re a fascist. Defend a Palestinian and you’re anti-semetic. Make a ‘whore’ joke and you’re a misogynist. Criticise capitalism and you’re a tankie. Accidentally and innocently misgender someone and you’re transphobic. Defend trans folk and you’re woke. Its all so bloody exhausting.
Oh I see, so you hate Free Software! Fucking typical, unsubscribed, and I will not be returning. 😛
Real talk though, the militant Linux stuff is what really pushed me away in the end. I am legally blind. I literally cannot use desktop Linux due to lack of accessibility, but somehow that’s my fault.
The never ending politics stuff is exhausting, sure, but at some level I can understand why people are passionate about it. The “FOSS or die” mentality just short-circuits my brain. Software is a tool, like a hammer or a screwdriver. If it works for you, more power to you, but it as often as not doesn’t work for me.
I understand if it would be a burden, but @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip could probably give some advice. I think they are legally blind too.
GNOME with the orca screen reader should be at least useable
That sucks, and I’m sorry you had that experience. To provide a viewpoint for your short-circuit, the FOSS software is a tool, yes, but the FOSS movement is politics and philosophy. To them (us, but I like to hope I’m less of a dink) software made unethically is similar to advocating for socialism or unions as a means of empowering the people against forces that would oppress them. For some people, using proprietary software might be like using products made by slave labour.
Some people who are more puritanical than myself might refuse to use anything that they can’t use freely, the equivalent of you obstaining from using a laptop at all if Linux doesn’t work for you. I think most people, myself included, would consider that extreme, but I bet you’ve heard from those extremists.
None of this is meant to excuse the people who’ve been crap to you, you should do whatever you need to. I’m just trying to explain why people get so worked up about it compared to a screwdriver. Or a hammer, say. A hammer and a sickle, even…
😉
I was on the cusp of leaving Reddit just before the API fiasco, and Redditors treating every interaction as combat by rhetoric, a contest rather than a discussion, was one of the main reasons.
Yes, that happens here, but it’s, like, the same two or three people every time. For several of your examples, particular usernames come to mind. The background vibe is much more chill, I feel.
I don’t think any of that is Lemmy Official Opinion. it just shows there are all kinds of people here, some of them maybe a bit too sensitive in their topic.
agree on the first part, second part is just the modern internet sadly
Its always been this way.
This person just said they would like to be fascist anti-semetic misogynist tankie and transphobic without catching shit for it. In the old days of the internet, we definitely would have told them to shove their head up their ass
A bit, yeah
The sad part is that the centralized platforms that are popping up and adopting anti politic stances are feeling much friendlier. People here complain about centralized platforms, but all the fighting is ironically just pushing people over to those platforms.
Same with posts. I posted something to TIL and it was instantly tagged as self promoting my channel. That was my last post. Message received.