• Kaligalis@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I hate Nintendo too. But they are not wrong in this case. Unstable politically motivated trade conditions raise prices.

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      except it was not nintendo that paid the tariffs, it was the customer, and they profit based on percentage of cost, so the customers paid them more, and then they complained to get payed again for having to profit more, which is paid for with tax dollars,

      so basically you paid for the privilege of paying them more.

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        But nintendo didnt vote for the tarrifs either. The American taxpayers did, and thus, they got what they voted for. Or in reality, they got what they were too lazy to vote agaisnt since over 1/3 of the population didnt bother.

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    Well the only reason why I didn’t get switch 2 because that’s the very first Nintendo console that you can’t pirate. And I really don’t mind.

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      This is exactly what people said about every single Nintendo console when it launched. Give it another year or two. Maybe the Switch 2 OLED will have launched by then.

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      I got one simply because it’s usually the launch model/first iteration of Nintendo’s consoles that get hacked first. As soon as it does…

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      Not with that attitude. It’ll be figured out.

      Intentionally buying only ones that are pirateable seems a little backwards.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Fuck corporate greed. My library rents switch games and for every three games I rent, only one is something I might pay for (but don’t have to). Who wants to spend 90 plus dollars just to take a chance on a game you might play for 10 minutes and decide you don’t like it?

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      Hence why we should be fighting for rights with digital goods. eBooks can be checked out at the library, albeit not without multiple fights to get something relatively fair, and there’s no good reason why this can’t be implemented for all other digital goods, other than like you said, corporate greed.

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    I’m not sure what Nintendo were meant to do. They probably shipped less units because of pricing. It would be impossible to actually hand that cash back to customers.

    The refund just means that the consumer paid for it once, then the taxpayer paid for it again. Yes, they are the same people.

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    If you buy something that you don’t need to survive, you are apparently fine with the price.

    If you are, you should not ask for a partial refund.

    If you aren’t, why are you buying it in the first place?

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      What an absolutely fucked up mentality. Poor people deserve luxuries as well. Life shouldn’t be only about survival, that’s not healthy for one’s mental well-being. You’re fucked in the head, mate.

      Quit carrying water for soulless companies.

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        I’m not sure if you replied to the correct post mate because nothing you said has been said by me lmao.

        Poor people deserve luxuries as well

        Idk where I have ever said they don’t. But you don’t get to buy something for a set price that is clearly communicated before and then demand a refund when you find out it’s actually cheaper lmao. That’s the dumbest take ever and the fact you would sue for it is beyond me.

        If the device was locked behind a 50€/month subscription or something that wasn’t communicated clearly before, hey, go sue. Absolutely appropriate. But buying something and then sueing later because you want money back for no other reason than: “WELL THEY GET MONEY BACK!” is karen behavior.

        Quit carrying water for soulless companies.

        I think that’s the cringest thing you can say. I’m not whiteknighting for nintendo, the company can go fuck themselves up the ass for all I care. However, the diffrence between you and me is that I’m looking at this situation from a neutral point of view while you are already biased before you even read anything about it.

        Imagine a small retailer selling something for X€ to a large company, then wins back some tariff money and then gets sued by that large company for damages. Would you also consider that fine? Because I’m pretty sure your moral compass would shift immediately in that situation.

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    Guys, I get that corps run amok but they are correct. They didn’t trick you, or hide the price. This just isn’t how shit works.

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      Getting paid twice for one transaction isn’t how it works.

      The buyers paid the extra tax to Nintendo to cover Nintendo’s extra cost. Then Nintendo gets a rebate on the tax. So they just got that extra tax money for no fucking reason.

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        Holy fuck, you just can’t differentiate reality and the way you imagine things should be.

        People are put in charge, one way or another. The rules are made. You don’t get to sue people for following the rules. Get better leaders and change the fucking rules if you don’t like it. Don’t just stand here mouthing off and defending lawyers scrounging up a payday on a lost cause. Change the rules and the people in charge. You get it now, after I repeat myself a few times?

        DOA suit, layers win.

  • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’ll toss it onto the massive pile of reasons I don’t buy Nintendo shit.

    And to head off any smug assholes who think they found a gotcha, no I don’t buy from microsoft sony or valve either.

    Sail the high seas or get shafted every time.

    Buy consoles secondhand.

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    Genuinely don’t care. The world sucks. I bought the Switch 2 at launvh and knew our dipshit president and the fuckass tech oligarchy were going to drive the price up but I wantes it anyway for needlessly sentimental reasons.

    I really think people are just angry they can’t point their rage at the power structures that caused this so they want to do it through consummerism, but the reality is you have less power there than you do politically. If you are shocked and offended that you don’t get your tariff money back then I’m sorry but you were always the sucker here.

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      Genuinely don’t care. The world sucks.

      perhaps the word sucks because not enough people care to make it not suck?

      I bought the Switch 2 at launvh and knew our dipshit president and the fuckass tech oligarchy were going to drive the price up but I wantes it anyway for needlessly sentimental reasons.

      and we wonder why big daddy tech keeps widening our holes after we beg him to stop…

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        I like how you very much ignored my last paragraph to make you other points when I directly addressed them both there.

        Keep your fingers in your ears and lalala loudly through life.

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          no, I disregarded it because it was the continuation of an incoherent rant without a point.

          since you’re begging though…

          I really think people are just angry they can’t point their rage at the power structures that caused this

          I think you’re too disconnected from reality to understand what the people are angry about.

          they want to do it through consummerism, but the reality is you have less power there than you do politically.

          don’t know what planet you live on, but in a capitalist society money reigns supreme. “vote with your dollar” has even stronger merit today than it did 70 years ago.

          If you are shocked and offended that you don’t get your tariff money back then I’m sorry but you were always the sucker here.

          I’m ignoring this one just to make you mad (tbh my legs are numb from sitting too long iykyk)

          1000001817

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            Brilliant stuff. Vote with your dollar in a world full of billionaires and litterially shitting your opinions. Foubd a shitlib on Lemmy surprise surprise.

  • THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world
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    Ah, good. They saw Sony and Microslop shooting themselves in the face repeatedly and decicded to get in on the action. Party’s all here now.

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    Nintendo is not your friend. It has no interest in passing any of its potential savings onto you, and the only reason it’s ever interested in your bank account is when it’s thinking about how much money it can get out of it.

    Some (too many) people fail to understand this extremely basic concept.

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      This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.

      (that’s a royal you btw, not calling out you specifically)

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        This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.

        There’s a difference between publicly-traded and privately-owned companies. I’m not saying that large corporations are your friend, but it’s rather disingenuous to categorize all of them with the same black & white stance.

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          What difference are you thinking of? Because I agree, there are differences. Nintendo does shitty things under the guise of enriching the shareholders. Valve does shitty things to enrich only Gabe.

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        Yeah, but some at least have some consumer friendly policies while they’re squeezing you dry.

        Not saying you should cozy up to suck them off or anything, but throwing everything in a single bucket labeled “bad” is big smooth brain moves.

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      Yeah, it’s honestly very sad to see people defend these gaming corporations blindly, yes, including Steam, when they’re doing anti-consumer things.

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        They’re doing also lots of pro consumer things

        Whereas, I’d argue Nintendo is almost entirely anti consumer. They didn’t even fix their joycons and recall them

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          Their cartel like price fixing policies raise prices across all sales platforms, regardless if they deal with steam codes or not.

          Also the child gambling.

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            The price parity is the big one for me. They have almost total market control, and they use this to prevent competition. We all know no other marketplace can compete on utility, because Steam has a massive head start. Their other option is to compete on price, and Valve has forced this to not be allowed. Somehow some people still defend them for this.

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          In addition to the other comment, the only reason their famous refund policy exists is because Australia made them do it. And I really cannot stress how shitty the loot box stance is. Gamers hate loot boxes by and large yet somehow largely give Valve a pass despite the fact they hugely popularized the concept in the gaming space.

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            My first instance of lootboxes was when Valve introduced them in TF2. I was a dumb 20 year old living with my parents so i had disposable income. I wasted at least $200 on keys.

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            Gamers apparently love loot boxes, lol.

            They have zero effect on the gameplay though. Ignore them if you want to, it really makes no difference.

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          Sure, here are my small list personal list of gripes, mostly minor except the first one.

          • Their continued stance on loot boxes and enabling of gambling.
          • They did try to do a paid mod system back in the day and got shutdown by gamers pretty quick.
          • Their initial discontinuation of batteries and LCD screens for their steam deck after only four years.
          • Their continued stance that they are selling revokable, non-transferable licenses and not games that you own.

          Steam’s a great company and overall very pro-consumer company in my opinion, more so than most of the other companies in the PC gaming realm but I’ll criticize Steam when I see something I believe is anti-consumer regardless of my like for them because end of they day they’re still just a corporation that prioritizes profits over people and it’s just one death away from being enshitified like the rest of them.

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            Don’t forget that the current refund system wasn’t born out of the benevolence of Valve. It all came from external pressure, mainly from Australia and somewhat EU. Steam never wanted you to be able to refund a game that doesn’t work, they were forced to. And even now they’re trying to hide the ability to refund games as much as possible.

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            That have zero choice on the licensing at least for games they dont publish.

            On the other hand they have kept installers for me long after the publisher has pulled their product.

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              I disagree. They’re are a multi billion dollar company that is the defacto/largest distributor, they’ve got the clout to push for effective change and they’ve been vocally against the secondary market or transfers, including on death.

              Also you said it yourself, they could easily do this for the games they publish and yet here we are.

              I do appreciate they keep delisted games around at least.

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                If they tried to change the terms, the companies would definitely simply leave.

                Personally, I don’t care. I find it weird people want to somehow have an account after death. I just treat it like a library that is there for me and the money saved vs any other way plus the convenience is huge. Its not any different than paying for a round of golf or 10 frames of bowling. Except I can play as many rounds as I want for the same price.

                I watch all the other stores requiring some kind of payment for what valve provides for free. Even less than what valve provides for free.

                I save so much money compared to anywhere else that as long as I die before valve (maybe thats the bigger issue), it is money well spent. My kids dont want my account they have their own.

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    As if anyone needed more reasons to stop giving Nintendo any money. The Switch2 is hardly an improvement, the games library sucks for the value (that never decreases), their online features are still stunted in the 2000’s era, and shocking no one, their company culture towards customers is “fuck you”.