• artyom@piefed.social
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    7 hours ago

    The problem is they can’t control Chromebooks. Give them a Linux laptop with a purposeful distro that doesn’t allow them to play Minecraft. Boom, problem solved.

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          3 hours ago

          A lot, TBH. The walled garden is everything in tech these days. When you control the platform and make it hard to leave, you control the flow of information.

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        It is, that’s what motivates my kids.

        So a big problem is lack of control. If schools provide electronics they want it to be cheap, zero maintenance, and limited to academic work to the extent possible.

        Kids want their control, they want their features and options, and yes they want to do other things. But not every kid can afford a laptop, not every kid can keep their laptop in working condition, and not every kid will focus on schoolwork as much as they need to

        My kids are in college now, and the electric is requirement is “bring your laptop”

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          Maybe I am misunderstanding what you’re saying but this sounds like an entitlement issue. Kids don’t need to be able to do more than schoolwork on school provided computers.

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            1 hour ago

            Kids want to do more than schoolwork. Maybe that’s entitlement, but the point is they are going to bitch and moan because they can’t

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              My grandma used to say “put your wants in one hand and take a shit in the other and see which one fills up faster.”

              The point is these are school computers, they shouldn’t be treated any differently than a computer lab computer just because they’re at your house.

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      6 hours ago

      The problem is there is no compelling data that these devices are superior for learning. They are distractions and expense with no proven benefit.

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        4 hours ago

        It doesn’t matter if they’re superior or not, they need to learn to use them, because every job is going to expect them to be able to.

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          I think it would take a pretty big effort to keep kids from learning how to use basic functions on tablets or laptops. They are inundated with these in and out of school. They don’t need to use them in school to be comfortabke with them on the job market.

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            2 hours ago

            And yet a lot of kids are entering the workforce today not knowing how to use a computer mouse or what a web browser is.

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              Probably best to focus on child labor laws then.

              For young adults entering the workforce computer literacy is dropping DESPITE a clear increase in school computer use. This is not an argument for kids being shackeld to tablets for their school work. Basic computer science courses, typing courses and computer lab exposure are sufficient.

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        6 hours ago

        There’s some benefit… my daughter was assigned a Window 11 Lenovo the last two tears and now hates Microsoft AND Windows.

        Her personal laptop runs linux.

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            5 hours ago

            Nah, her kind of deep seated hatred comes from required usage over time, not from a weekend. Short term exposure just doesn’t do it.

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        The devices for my kids saved me a crapload on buying textbooks.

        They consider it a benefit that now they can hand in their assignment just before midnight Friday night the week it’s due