• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The Iranian leadership is not innocent, they are a crazy bunch of maniacs, but in this war they are innocent.
    It would be nice for everybody if Iran could get back to democracy. But having a patriarchy that was instated by the people, is not an excuse to attack or even sanction a country. It’s actually against international law. As international law guarantees the self determination and right to trade of any sovereign country.
    That right was taken away from Iran without good reason by USA as soon as the patriarchy was established in 1979. Overturning the USA instated dictator.

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      3 days ago

      but in this war they are innocen

      They try to build nukes and they fund terror groups in the region, quite the opposit of innocent.

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        They try to build nukes

        That’s a lie, and everybody knows it. And even if they were trying to build nukes, can you blame them?
        What right does USA have to deny others what they themselves have.

        You are making excuses for USA to attack countries without reason. Something that will make more countries want nukes not fewer.

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          That’s a lie, and everybody knows it.

          They have a nuclear Programm and everybody knows it. They have 60% enriched Uranium and everybody knows, that you dont need that much for civilian use.

          What right does USA have to deny others what they themselves have.

          I dont support the attack on Iran.

          There are a lot of Countries with nuclear weapons who shouldnt have them, but I am way more comfortable with the Usa having nukes, than with a bunch of terrorists.

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            They have a nuclear Programm and everybody knows it.

            That is just the worst bullshit to respond with. Yes they have nuclear power, and they use enriched uranium for that. So what?
            You don’t use 60% enriched uranium for nuclear bombs either, also Iran had agreed to dilute the Uranium as part of a deal before the attack.

            I dont support the attack on Iran.

            Why then are you defending Israeli and Trump talking points?
            You sure act like you are supporting it by defending it.

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              Why then are you defending Israeli and Trump talking points?

              Those are not Israeli and Trump talking points, many Nations including France, Uk and Germany say the same.

              And its easy to make weapons grade uranium if you already have 60% enriched uranium. They have no credible use for this, other than nukes.

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        3 days ago

        Not debating the socond point, or the general nocence of the Iranian government vis-a-vis human rights and such, but there is little evidence for the first except for vague statements by the Israeli government and the Pedo in Chief’s assmunchers (nothing against assmunching in general).

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      Human rights violations most definitely justify sanctions.

      International law also guarntees human rights and self-determination for everyone (yes, including iranian women). It also says that governments have a duty to prptect human dignity.

      Also the right to trade is not about being able to force others to buy or sell you stuff. Other Nations are also sovereign and can decide with whom to trade.

      The right of trade is about blockades. You’re not allowed to block the trade of two other nations. The Iran blockading the Hormuz is a violation. (To be clear: they are allowed to block the US and Israel because there the law of war applies, but blocking Iraqi or Korean ships, with which they are not at war, that is illegal)