I have been using gmail/google for a long time now (decade or more). But the systems I have come to rely on have been getting enshitified. With their new AI advertisements popping up like crazy…Im just done.

Anyone have a good alternative to gmail? Im looking for something that will not break the bank.

For a bit there, I was running my own email server, but spam and issues with my internet provider (other email servers kept thinking my domain was spamming others) made it hard to keep up. I just dont have the patience anymore for that.

I was thinking of trying out proton or namecheaps offerings and seeing if I like them.

I am used to working with thunderbird but can use online portals if needed. If they have ac alendar that might be a bonus. Personally, I want minimal or no AI. And I want the company to be trusted and in business for at least 5 years.

Any good recommendations?

  • baronvonj@piefed.socialEnglish
    1·
    4 days ago

    I gave Proton Mail a try but there’s no x send as" feature and no offline access. I believe Tuta is the same. There’s services like mailbox.org and purelymail. I ended up using Fastmail with my own domain. Your regular Thunderbird IMAP will work fine with it. Also standard CalDAV, CardDAV, and WebDAV. I used DAVx5 on Android to sync my contacts and calendar, so other apps on my phone can make integrate. I use the FastMail mobile app just for mail.

    • ExtremeDullard@piefed.socialEnglish
      51·
      4 days ago

      Proton is on my shit list because of this.

      I know it was Proton’s CEO and not Proton-the-company that said this, but there has to be consequences for shit like that, so maybe the next cretinous CEO will think twice before siding with fascists. Andy Yen lost his company this customer forever, and they can thank him for that.

      • fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vipEnglish
        5·
        4 days ago

        i am in the same boat, i am weirdly ashamed to admit? i mean not that i dont admit it freely with anyone who will listen, but just, all it took was that one little remark and my trust was irrevocably broken, and i was getting ready to bring my entire little family unit over into that ecosystem.

        instead i went with posteo for email and self hosted everything else

      • baronvonj@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        Oh, right. But the bridge is desktop only. I suppose you could configure an IMAP client on mobile to pull from your desktop bridge, to have emails cached for offline on you phone. But that’s just crazy kludgy.