west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
so you concede that it was a temporal kingdom, for over a thousand years. the pope still holds all the kingly titles, he just lost the armies to enforce them
this completely confirms my argument- this is exactly the kind of conflation of spiritual authority and temporal authority which the catholic church has used to exterminate its enemies. it just lacks the power to do it these days.
‘not currently an empire’: you are arguing against a point i didn’t make
i accept your concession
when I realize some people will never change their minds when they have become stiff necked but if I sigh and stop, their soul is my burden.
you mistake your own pride for grace, that is prelest
I do not believe that I am spiritually superior to anybody, we are all sinners.
However, it is my duty to inform people of the Word
and it is often a Tragedy if they do not listen with open ears and most importantly, open hearts
I am not angry at you, only sad.
Not until they lost their armies, but until they realized “Hey, unchecked power is intoxicating and war only leads to more war” and spit it out
God does not bless any conflict
this is intense historical revisionism, they did not graciously hand over power, the risorgimento forcibly stripped it.
pius ix called himself a prisoner of the vatican when italian troops took rome in 1870 and the papacy refused to recognize the italian state for sixty years.
the Lateran Treaty with Mussolini was their reconciliation with losing
If the Church suddenly gained an army today, they would disband it.
The Church has gone through a LOT of theological reformations and more findings since 1870. The Capture of Rome was forced, but most civillians
and most of the members of the Church did not want to keep power.