What’s a thought pattern that’s way too common and damaging to society?
Believing that poverty is a moral failure. Though that’s been an issue for millenia.
I guess it is more a thing of Western countries. Max Weber suggested that the Protestant Reformation, led to the belief that economic success was a sign of divine favor, legitimizing wealth inequality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism
In the case of the Soviet Union, Marxist-Leninist doctrine treated poverty as a product of class exploitation under capitalism rather than personal failure. Official discourse emphasized that unemployment, homelessness, and destitution were systemic features of bourgeois economies. Within Soviet society, this translated into a strong normative expectation that the state bore responsibility for guaranteeing employment, housing, and basic welfare. While in practice shortages and inequalities persisted, the cultural script did not legitimize blaming the poor; instead, marginalization was often interpreted as a failure of planning, bureaucracy, or remnants of pre-socialist class structures.
A comparable ideological orientation can be found in the People’s Republic of China, particularly during the Maoist period. Under Mao Zedong, poverty was framed as the legacy of feudalism and imperialism. Campaigns such as land reform and collectivization were justified precisely on the premise that peasants were victims of structural oppression rather than agents of their own deprivation. Even in the post-1978 reform era, although market mechanisms reintroduced inequality, official rhetoric continues to stress “poverty alleviation” as a state-led responsibility, culminating in large-scale programs aimed at eradicating extreme poverty without moralizing the poor as individually culpable.
Woke mind virus.
Care to explain what you mean by that?
Sure.
Clearly I struck a nerve with everyone, which I find hilarious.
I’m not a MAGAT. I said that because it’s legitimate and true to some degree whether I agree with the words woke mind virus or not it was a means to explain the phenomenon.
Everyone has some sort of idea, intuition, theory, about literally everything now days in some crazy fashion, 5g world domination, implants in blood draws, wild things you see. The government, food, tech, tv shows. What I was speaking on loosely and fast just as a simple comment to OP was that there literally seems like a woke mind virus now days because its ingrained in everyone.
I only used woke mind virus because that’s what most people see on the news and hear about, so they understand loosely the context I speak about. Was more to get my point across, be active in this sub, and be relatable to OP. Again. Not a MAGAT so everyone commenting and being offended, while your entitled to feel how you feel my post was simply taken far out of context.
Edit: I think this post helps prove my point or atleast reaffirm what I was meaning. Everyone below was quick to lash out, downvote, with any sort of understanding or discussion. That in and of itself is part of the issue. People being so ingrained in their feelings and view that it inhibits productive discussion and behaviour.
Well I’m not one to laugh when I go into a room full of people and upset everyone. But you do you I guess.
To my understanding “woke mind virus” is far different than the things you described. What you described are common misinformation given to people in lower economic backgrounds to sow discourse among the working class . To me the “woke mind virus” is more of an understanding of how systemic racism and sexism in many laws have kept many people intentionally in poverty.
In short, you’re like, using the words wrong around here bruv.
I suppose I was a bit pedantic about it, what I really mean is that people take things far too personal and it’s a bit ridiculous to me. Perhaps I should not have said it was hilarious it was more of an expression of absurdity to me.
English is not my language. I do my best. I contribute, I write in english to do better learning. I still think if you look at some of the replies on Lemmy an to my comment above. People don’t have open minds. Quick to ridicule and cast out. Most people seem to have the view of theirs and only theirs. Everyone opposing is bad. That is not good for anyone and the world.
Yeah there seems to be a lot of closed mindedness everywhere. And I think people were always quick to ridicule and cast out. At least that’s what my dad’s music says at least. 😅
I guess we’ve had different experiences. I don’t think most people I meet feel like it’s their way only. Except for a few notable exceptions 🇺🇸. I do think that a lot of people feel and think the opposing “side” is bad.
But at the same time I don’t really blame people for being that way. The stakes are seem to be getting higher.
One example that comes to mind is in my country. The highest level of government overturned a law that protected the bodily autonomy of women a few years ago. In my country if you have a uterus in some places, the local governments can imprison, and even put you to death if your pregnancy goes a way the government doesn’t like. I have not heard of anyone being executed yet though. Only imprisoned.
Essentially one half of our species trying to subjugate the other half. Oh and by the way, it’s been that for a really long time. Down with the Patriarchy. ♀️
Or just the other day; A person in one of the most powerful positions of our species threatened to wipe out an entire civilization.
I agree that almost all of the conflict and suffering our species places on ourselves is a waste of time, hampering us, and is bad. But for some people it is a fight for survival. And I suspect those people most likely won’t be open-minded with “only a little genocide!”.
I spent way too much time writing this so I probably won’t respond. I’m going to play some Foxhole. Good luck in the trials ahead for our species in the coming years, stranger. Don’t forget Trans Rights Are Human Rights. 🏳️⚧️
you seem to be describing conspiracy theorists, or fantastical thinkers. “wokeism” is just a derogatory way fascists refer to queer people or leftists as if they were a conspiracy.
Don’t feed the troll…
Nah, I guess it’s the right thing to try to engage in a productive discussion. Might sound stupid but lemmy is far smaller than traditional social media. It’s like a local tavern of social medias, and there’s isn’t an endless supply of trolls like there’s on other social medias. Besides having conversation with someone of opposing ideas is always welcomed.
Without any elaboration, this is just a regressive buzzphrase and people will inevitably interpret it as such.
Nature abhors a vacuum, and at best, you will be asked to elaborate (which you could have done to begin with).
I am trying my best to think you had good but misguided intentions in commenting this, but I’m not sure what these are.
how did you even end up here? shouldn’t you be on like X or something?
Is OC not answering the question? Belief in a “woke mind virus” is a popular toxic mentality nowadays.
Correct. This is what I was stating but Lemmy took it out of context. Oh well.
The way it was worded contributed to that.
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Transphobia, racism, misogyny…
“I don’t like it so it must be bad” in relation to all kinds of media. So many people can’t accept that something just isn’t meant for them. There are literally thousands of games, movies and albums getting released every year so if you don’t like something, just don’t buy it and move on instead of complaining to (and sometimes about) those of us who are looking forward to it.
I think a lot about how “good” and “fun” are two different things.
You can have a game that’s a fascinating exploration of a theme that really unifies mechanics and story, but is an absolute downer of misery to play.
You can also have a game that’s a glorified slot machine with bugs, no real player input, and abusive monetization, but people’s brains light up playing it.
There’s some subjectivity of course, but sometimes I see games that are good at what they’re trying to be, but I don’t have any fun with them. Some people seem to demand those overlap all the time.
I would say that‘s an entirely different point. If someone likes to literally watch paint dry, who am I to invade their discussions tell them they shouldn’t? Let people like what they like even if you personally think it’s neither good nor fun.
What I was trying to get at is something can be worthwhile even if you don’t personally enjoy it.
I think you nailed it when you wrote " forcing their personal views and beliefs on others". That is what we see happening now with people trying to control others. We see it in government and with religion. It is trickling down to where the common person feels it is not only okay to do, but that they must do it to compete with others and get ahead.
It does also sometimes stem from people’s inability to elaborate. Like if you dislike something, there’s a reason you hate it. That’s why I especially hate reviews like “it’s mid” or “it’s goated”/“it’s peak” like they barely help.
Conservatism, probably. The whole in-group supremacy thing is pretty bad.
In-group suoremacy isn’t restricted to conservatism though, sadly.
That they’re player 1 and everyone else is an NPC.
That with hard work, grit, and determination you can become wealthy in the USA too.
Anti-intellectualism
Making fun of people for reading or learning or knowing “too much” about a thing
i don’t see anyone making fun of it, but i do seem people characterizing intellectuals as either disconnected and stuck up; or depressed and childless; or godless and doomed to hell for it and all of it is done with the vaguely hidden intention of warning everyone else against intellectual pursuits or else they’ll end up like disconnected, depressed, and/or godless.
One thing I noticed in India, and perhaps elsewhere too that happiness is on the other side of whatever goal one has, usually something that is sold as hustle or hardwork. I am not talking about people who don’t earn enough to afford even basics and are told that they don’t earn enough because they don’t work hard enough. These people are simply playing a rigged game.
I am talking about usually well-off people who earn enough, but not enough to be happy. These people don’t realize that in their case happiness is just due to an internal lack and not due to external factors. These people try to buy and consume in order to fill a void that cannot be filled through external stuff or status.
Internal vs external locus of control.
Incuriousity
I will never understand people who think they already know everything they need to know.
Thing is, sometimes it takes more effort to know something than you have the energy to put.
that having awareness of misogyny is actually misandry
Probably not the worst, but my personal worst that comes to mind is manosphere bullshit that spreads like wildfire among men who aren’t happy with their life. I can sadly even see it with some friends, they don’t fully buy into it but most men are vulnerable to it because it’s an easy “solution”.
That efficiency is an absolute good.
Additionally - That asset stripping and profiteering are “efficient”. It’s a bit of a euphemism at this point I think.
Most companies I’ve worked for have cut their resources to the bone in search of efficiencies which are more accurately described as shareholder profit maximisations, but are pitched as “just in time” operation. Why hire two people when one can do a good enough job at half the pay. Why fabricate something locally when we can get a third party in SE Asia to make the same thing for peanuts and then charge EU pricing in our market.
Neither maximise efficient operations, just the efficient extraction of profit.
I’d been noticing lately how IG e.g. (or whatever, echo chamber/filter bubble) was feeding me a lot of man-child hate, and at some point felt it was getting to me a bit too much. Made me intolerant towards strangers and less likely to give someone at least a chance, which is how I normally am. And I know incel culture quite well too, so it seems like a really toxic, alienating combo. Not because we are supposed to just get married and breed and shut up for the greater GDP, but just for basic human trust and empathy.
