With Discord announcing age verification globally, people are searching for alternatives. But a Discord alternative on the open social web might just look structurally quite different.

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    3 months ago

    Same reason the Fediverse does. Because a would-be piece of software can’t scale without it. If each instance is entirely disconnected, then you can’t jump between different communities on them without new accounts. This depresses growth. Your average would-be Discord instance host is unlikely to be able to scale up to any meaningful size to be a large host, and nor would that be desirable anyway as its just a form of centralisation to begin with.

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      3 months ago

      Barring the single account, I want them entirely disconnected though. Discord had not suffered in growth because of a lack of interaction.

      Centralization is irrelevant for what users want outside of a niche. The average user doesn’t care.

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        3 months ago

        Why? You could always self-host a federated Discord alternative and not federate it with anywhere else if you wanted it like that. You can use it like that and others can utilise its federation functions. Why is Federation presumably desirable for you when it comes to Lemmy but not Discord?

        Federation is necessary here for long-term resistance to corporate greed and decline. It isn’t a selling point specifically for the individual user experience here.

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          3 months ago

          Snuck in an edit that touches some or your points. I’m not on Lemmy because of federation, that’s incidental. I’m here because it’s another option to explore. But I still use reddit, too, because the community is there.

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            But I still use reddit, too, because the community is there.

            federation is important not because it can be used as some kind of buzzword, but because without it, even here we would be much fewer. there would be more very small communities, which can’t interact, and overall with strictly distinct lemmy instances the whole user number would be much lower because of things people complain about a lot even this way, that there’s not enough content